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By the year of 2015 will all CRNA will be needing a Doctorate degree, instead of a Masters degree?

Hmmm I see a big problem in the future......

Just ask Dr. so and so.....

The medical doctor? the nurse doctor? the physical therapist doctor? the pharmacy doctor? My word!!! My head is about to explode ;-)

Does a person with a Doctorate in Nursing go by Dr. so and so?

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Yes! If you have a D in your credentials whether it be an MD, PHD, PHARMD, DPT or DNAP, you put in the hours and deserve the title of DOCTOR!

I think that the idea that some MD's have that "nurses can't hold the title of Doctor" is ridiculous! If a teacher earns a PHD you respect them with the title of Dr. So-and-so. Nurses are the same way. And let me tell you, when I finish my 1,000th hour of clinical? My KIDS are going to be calling me Doctor. :p

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
Hmmm I see a big problem in the future......

Just ask Dr. so and so.....

The medical doctor? the nurse doctor? the physical therapist doctor? the pharmacy doctor? My word!!! My head is about to explode ;-)

Does a person with a Doctorate in Nursing go by Dr. so and so?

Hmm....maybe people will just have to start asking for the physician, pharmacist, nurse, the physical therapist etc..... You know for several years now pharmacists/OT/PT/ST etc. have been getting their doctorates, but as soon as nurses start getting doctorates on a more wide spread scale it is suddenly a crisis?....Heaven forbid that we are just going to have to start educating our patients that just because you have your doctorate in something doesn't mean you are a physician.

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I agree. "Doctor" is not the technical term for a physician. I think that this is such a positive change for nurses. What a better way to earn the respect that we deserve? These advanced degrees are going to make the title "nurse" have so much more weight. Not that it shouldn't have been respected before, but now "doctors" will realize that they are not the only "doctor" in the room, and can behave accordingly.

I'm all for it!

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
Not that it shouldn't have been respected before, but now "doctors" will realize that they are not the only "doctor" in the room, and can behave accordingly.

Have you worked around physicians very much? Some of these guys/gals are going to be just as arrogant and obnoxious no matter who else is around. Most physicians could care less how much education we get as nurses. They will still see us as subserviant to them, and most will still expect us to follow their orders without question.

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The question that I have is that since it will change to a Doctorate, will the rate of pay increase as well?

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Specializes in CRNA.
The question that I have is that since it will change to a Doctorate, will the rate of pay increase as well?

I don't beleive it's made any difference for PT, or the PharmD's, doubt it will for CRNAs. On the other hand when you are talking to people in the regulatory bodies about direct reimbursement, it could make some difference over time. But if you want to know if a clinical CRNA with a MS will be paid differently than a CRNA with a DNP, then the answer is almost always "no".

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Specializes in Hospitalist.

cool. I'm excited.

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That is absurd. If this is true, every school that does not offer a doctoral degree would have to move at the spped of light to get one up and running much last graduate DNP students by that year. Where do people come up with this stuff?

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
That is absurd. If this is true, every school that does not offer a doctoral degree would have to move at the spped of light to get one up and running much last graduate DNP students by that year. Where do people come up with this stuff?

The DNP is not a lot different than the MSN programs that are out there now, so there is no giant leap that the programs have to go through to make this happen. The biggest hurdle is going to be having enough doctorate prepared instructors, and since for NAs schools the change isn't mandated until 2025 that leaves plenty of time. I believe there are 3 NA schools that have DNP/DNAP programs now, and both military NA schools have plans to change to the DNP before 2015.

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Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
Interesting. I kind of want to see how this things turns out even though i hope it dosent. That would mean more schooling and less time to enjoy life

Good grief. Sigh.

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I'm looking at University of Iowa, and they have already made the switch- the MSN isn't even an option. At this point, I'd be a little spooked to even consider a masters instead of a doctorate.

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