Do you guys read birth plans? - page 5

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   May 3, '02

   shay your last post just proves what i said all along you are just hateful and resentful, you can not hold an intellegent conversation with a person that disagrees with you. and YOU READ INTO WHAT A PERSON WRITES. i did not say it is all the nurses fault, or that i am wonder nurse, that i never have problems or bad baby,s, nor did i say i can control negative outcomes with my mind.
   as far as the fingertip primagravida wanting her epidural, NO I would not say a thing about her.,I WOULD DO WHAT A GOOD NURSE IS SUPPOSED TO, comfort her in anyway i can, explain to them why that can not have it yet,and that i will get it to her as soon as possible.
   remember Shay who is the one who got ugly and personal with statements like you have your head up your ass, live in ivory tower, " i will not do battle of wits with an unarmed person" the only UNARMED person here is you,if you would act professionally and try to represent nursing properly you would not talk to a COWORKER in such a manner.
   it just seems you insist on insulting me ,and we all know why. You surely must feel you have lost CONTROL,.
   it is a shame that you have to resort to such lowly forms of comunication.
   
   You really need to go back and read my post that so enraged you but this time read it with open eyes and mind, you will see it is not what you think it is and what YOU have portrayed here. You may have nursing skill but your closed mindedness, hateful attitude and down right ugliness to your coworker, make you a poor example of a nurse!
   
   remember it is YOU SHAY who started the name calling, while i refered to you by name.
   
   have a nice day!

   Last edit by mark_LD_RN on May 4, '02
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   May 3, '02

   Wow, that's enough folks. Let's move on.
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   May 4, '02

   Although I did just pm Mark to assure him I am not upset or offended I do have to say, reading the post addressing mine, in my defense, I am not biased as to gender. I like men. I have 3 sons. I love them. My oldest one, now in college, has recently thanked me for not only being a great mom to him, but thanking me as I was :a blast to grow up with." That said, I will add that Mark, as much as I do and will always respect your point of view, attacking me verbally will do nothing other than convince others that you have a chip on your shoulder. Feeling resentful of my comments is certainly your perogative, but, with all due respect to your feelings, it is a waste of time..I have no gender bias...I merely outlined some of the "over the top" care plans I have encountered and some of the "over the top" controlling husbands/significant others who were involved in unreasonable or unhealthy scenarios in which THE WOMAN INVOLVED WAS INVISIBLE OR IGNORED....This does not happen often with regard to a birth plan, thank goodness. I believe the initial question was whether or not we read birth plans...I don't believe the question was related to who could top who or whether they are good, bad or indifferent. I think you are taking things (at least with regard to anything I have written) much too personally..That too, is your perogative, but as I did not attack you (unless calling you a man is somehow an attack), please do me the favor and respectful thing of not zinging me....You happen to share a poignant and important part of couple dom by being an involved, caring and knowlegeable partner. No one here (if I may speak for them) has indicated in any way that you are not. Defensive is leading in YOUR direction, but I can't blame you. You're outnumbered. As I said in my pm, we can agree to disagree, but a discussion that goes only in one direction is not a discussion, it's a soliloqy....By the way, my 4 brothers will ALSO tell you I am not biased in the way you suggest....I merely related an occurrence that happened on my watch. And thats all....I feel no need to attack you verbally or in any way....But, as much as I cannot exactly relate to how it feels to be a concerned husband to the degree that you are, in no way, shape or form, howEVER learned or involved you are, you CANNOT fully experience birth to the degree I can and have so at least respect THAT portion of whatever statements fly by you and relax, breathe...... Thanks for YOUR input......Cheesh!

   Last edit by mother/babyRN on May 4, '02
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   May 4, '02

   And you DO realize, that everything you have accused Shay of being in the posts I just read, YOU are doing or saying......Shay, I appreciate that you understood what I was initially attempting to convery....Thanks a bunch....
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   May 4, '02

   Are WE done now??????
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   May 4, '02

   mother baby rn, i think everyone really misunderstood my post. I never attacked you or aimed anything at you. I was just stating my opinion from personal experiences. sorry if you thought they were pointed at you. i feel you must have read more into it than there was, or maybe i just worded it it such a way that it lead you to believe otherwise. and i did not say you were biased that was ponted at shay and hardknox for their inappropriate comments and tag team posts and personal attacks on me. thanks,mark

   Last edit by mark_LD_RN on May 4, '02
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   May 4, '02

   I would like the moderator and Mark to point out where I have made inapproprate and personal attacks on Mark. I have reread my posts and see nothing of the kind.
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   May 24, '02

   To Shay, I salute you!!! Couldn't have said it better myself. I have had my share of "Bradley Method" husbands who spoke for their wives and wouldn't budge from their "plan" even in the face of their baby's death! So frustrating, after a while you do groan when a lengthy birth plan comes before you, because invariably there is no negotiating with the parents and it seems that they're always a C/S waiting to happen. I love informed parents, just bend a little!!!
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   May 25, '02

   Originally posted by BugRN
   To Shay, I salute you!!! Couldn't have said it better myself.

   said in best Elvis inpersonation.... Thank ya....thank ya very much....
10. 
    May 28, '02

    Personally, I don't mind birth plans as long as the people writing them have done their homework. We still get birth plans that say no enema or shave prep, haven't been doing either one for umpteen years! Come in with a realistic, well thought out birth plan and it will get read, all others get thrown under who knows what in the chart and C/S papers are pulled.
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    May 30, '02

    I'm new...what's a primip?
12. 
    May 30, '02

    a primip is someone who is having her first baby. a Multip is someone who already has a baby and is having a second,third or more baby. The technical term is a primparous (sp?)
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    May 30, '02

    Thanks so much. I really mulled that over and just couldn't quite figure it out. And I must say - finally someone else from CA!! I haven't run into many of us west coasters!

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