Published Oct 29, 2003
Plato
37 Posts
nursing students: your job is to learn, not to criticize. you don't know enough to criticize what you see. you need to sit down with your coloring book and color. when you graduate, if you graduate, when you pass your nclex, if you pass your nclex, when you get a job as a nurse, if you get a job as a nurse, when you've been working for six months on the floor, if you last six months on the floor, then you will be in a position to judge things correctly. until then, you're just another student that may or may not be around next semester. so, no one's going to listen to you, and no one gives a damn what you think is proper nursing care or what you think is not proper nursing care.
of course there are horrible nurses. but for all anyone knows, you're lining up to be the next one.
andre
135 Posts
Nice. Very nice.
Last time I checked even students were allowed to have opinions. Otherwise, how are we supposed to develop that "critical thinking" our instructors are beating into our heads????
Geez, did somebody have a bad day?
cannoli
615 Posts
Good points! LOL!
sanakruz, ADN
735 Posts
Ouch
Dixen81
415 Posts
originally posted by plato nursing students: your job is to learn, not to criticize. you don't know enough to criticize what you see. you need to sit down with your coloring book and color. when you graduate, if you graduate, when you pass your nclex, if you pass your nclex, when you get a job as a nurse, if you get a job as a nurse, when you've been working for six months on the floor, if you last six months on the floor, then you will be in a position to judge things correctly. until then, you're just another student that may or may not be around next semester. so, no one's going to listen to you, and no one gives a damn what you think is proper nursing care or what you think is not proper nursing care. of course there are horrible nurses. but for all anyone knows, you're lining up to be the next one.
wow, what brought that on? i'm a student who is starting my first clinical tomorrow. when our group was meeting with our instructor today, she was telling us not to be afraid of the patients, they're just people like you and me. i told her that i'm not afraid of the patients - i'm afraid of the nurses! we asked her if they really eat their young, and she said no, that the nurses are nice!
what advice to you nurses have for clinicals? i don't want to get in the way, but i want to help where i can and learn all i can. what do experienced nurses want us to do, or not do, besides "shut up and color?"
thanks in advance for your advice!
AmyLiz
952 Posts
Oookay.
Yikes "Shut up and color", eh? Nice. Real nice. Not exactly helping anyone learn by having that attitude now are you? Sorry you had a bad student or whatever, but that generalization is just wrong and uncalled for.
Originally posted by andre Nice. Very nice. Last time I checked even students were allowed to have opinions. Otherwise, how are we supposed to develop that "critical thinking" our instructors are beating into our heads???? Geez, did somebody have a bad day?
Who ever said you couldn't have opinions, but read the post: What difference do your opinions make? As a human being with a conscience, sure, you have an opinion. But will you act any differently when you have seven patients to care for? I know what a horrible nurse is. I know I am not one of them. But what about you? What do I know about you--what do you know about you?
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,268 Posts
Plato - come on - get a grip. Since you're such a wonderful nurse, show the students how its done. Just curious - what kind of nursing do you do???
Originally posted by peggysue Wow, what brought that on? I'm a student who is starting my first clinical tomorrow. When our group was meeting with our instructor today, she was telling us not to be afraid of the patients, they're just people like you and me. I told her that I'm not afraid of the patients - I'm afraid of the nurses! We asked her if they really eat their young, and she said no, that the nurses are nice! What advice to you nurses have for clinicals? I don't want to get in the way, but I want to help where I can and learn all I can. What do experienced nurses want us to do, or not do, besides "shut up and color?"Thanks in advance for your advice!
Wow, what brought that on? I'm a student who is starting my first clinical tomorrow. When our group was meeting with our instructor today, she was telling us not to be afraid of the patients, they're just people like you and me. I told her that I'm not afraid of the patients - I'm afraid of the nurses! We asked her if they really eat their young, and she said no, that the nurses are nice!
What advice to you nurses have for clinicals? I don't want to get in the way, but I want to help where I can and learn all I can. What do experienced nurses want us to do, or not do, besides "shut up and color?"
Thanks in advance for your advice!
When you meet someone, do you know if they are being sincere or not? So will your patient--even if they're severly demented. When you talk to someone, can you tell when they are keeping a distance from you? So will your patient. So would you, if you were a patient. If I were your preceptor, I'd only eat you alive if you needed to be eaten. Believe me, if you're a "good" nurse, the bad ones can't eat you.
memphispanda, RN
810 Posts
I know I don't need any experience at all to know that was rude!
Jrnalist2RNinOR
139 Posts
Plato: Your job apparently now is not to help the nursing students learn and help produce more good nurses for a field that needs more nurses, but rather, shoot down the people that you obviously feel insecure about coming into your work environment and try to make them not feel welcome. Yes, you may have been working longer as a nurse, but that doesn't mean that you have the "authority" to be an asshole to anyone that comes in to work under you and study under you. If you don't treat your fellow nurses as an equal, how do you treat the rest of America PLATO - wasn't discrimination in the workplace outlawed. Damn, I think it was. So, whether you like it or not, you just sort of have to grin and bear it - and maybe, just maybe get off your high horse.....it might bring you down to reality.
But how do we become good nurses? We need to learn from the experienced nurses. But honestly, I would be too afraid to approach you.