Thinking about Excelsior - page 2
i'm thinking about lpn to rn through ec. do ya'll have any comments about the program and would you do it again? lpn student in oregon... Read More
Apr 20, '07
Apr 24, '07thanks to everybody who took the time to give feedback. i think i have made my decision. any other comments or advise regarding
rue ed vs excelsior...
:bowingpur lpn student in oregon
Apr 24, '07RUE is just a proram like the collee network you pay for on top of EC's fees. I f you really need the study guides, check ebay for deals on them. I did fine with the books and content guide from EC and the peer network online was invaluable as well especially when prepping for the CPNE.
Apr 24, '07
Apr 25, '07Quote from rn_wannabe2008Thank you!OR.....50% completion (passing) of a traditional nursing program.
That's right. Then you have to take NC II.
Apr 25, '07Or if you're like me, you can send EC all of your outlines and objectives from your previous nursing courses and have the chance to get NC1 and NC2 waived. I took NC1 before I knew this, but I did get NC2 waived. I was shocked that they waived it, but soooooooooo glad!). Actually I just found out on Monday that they waived it (the same day I passed NC4 wth an A!!!!). What a good day that was! :-)
Quote from SuesquatchThank you!
That's right. Then you have to take NC II.
Apr 25, '07Quote from rn_wannabe2008Oh, excellent!Or if you're like me, you can send EC all of your outlines and objectives from your previous nursing courses and have the chance to get NC1 and NC2 waived. I took NC1 before I knew this, but I did get NC2 waived. I was shocked that they waived it, but soooooooooo glad!). Actually I just found out on Monday that they waived it (the same day I passed NC4 wth an A!!!!). What a good day that was! :-)
Apr 25, '07Hello, I looked in the Excelsior College Nursing catalog to find the difference between AAS and AS in Nursing programs, but still don't see it. Can any one explain? Or I could just go to College For Dummies. Kidding. Thanks. Lina.
Apr 25, '07Quote from SilikaThey'll determine which you should go for depending on your existing credits. It has to do with liberal arts courses, I think.Hello, I looked in the Excelsior College Nursing catalog to find the difference between AAS and AS in Nursing programs, but still don't see it. Can any one explain? Or I could just go to College For Dummies. Kidding. Thanks. Lina.
May 5, '07i finished my paramedic to rn with excelsior. it took me 2 years, 9 months while i worked full-time and cost me $7300 after all expenses for books, fees, testing, travel, and an optional workshop. would i do it again? that is hard to say. you can figure out the benefits for your situation. the drawbacks are that there are no grants or loans, no teacher to ask "how am i doing?", and a very uncertain ending.
the ending is the cpne (clinical performance exam in nursing) and it would serve you well to learn about it. it is the only hands-on, real patients part of the degree. it consists of a 4 part lab friday night, 2 patient care situations on saturday, and 1 pcs on sunday. if you fail one of the parts of the lab, you may try again on saturday. if you fail one of the pcss, you may try again once that weekend. each of these items consists of "critical elements" that are clearly written for you to study in the 4-5 months that you wait to get an opening for this exam. failure is omitting any one of the critical elements. this is not a percent test--failure is missing one item. how many items are there? well, each lab has about 10, so that is 40. each pcs consists of areas of care, which vary with each patient. if a patent is in the hospital with exacerbation of copd, your aoc are going to be mobility, fluid mgt, vital signs, respiratory mgt, comfort mgt, and maybe med adm. you plan their care, perform these aocs, and write it up in no more than 2.5 hours. each aoc has about 10 critical elements, so that is 60. you have 3 patients at the least, if no failures, so that is about 180 ces plus the labs 40 equals 220 specific things you need to cover without missing 1 in order to pass this exam.
it is a little hard for me to explain it adequately, so try to find someone who has done it and ask them. the very first ce of every area is "complies with established guidelines". that is vague. no getting around that. the "guidelines" are not spelled out by ec anywhere. the cdc guideline for infection control is that you wash before putting on gloves and immediately after. so there is a guideline. doesn't make senses to me, haven't been doing it that way, but that is the ec way (and the way i now does it). what other unknown guidelines are there? well, you read your ass off trying to find stuff like that and hope for the best. you read the texts (6) that ec recommends, their web site, the yahoo web sites:
now, i must say, ec is not trying to trick you, not out to gig you on little stuff, actually wants you to pass. but there is no wink-wink, nod-nod stuff like you may have seen in cpr recert. it is all by the book and stressful as hell.
i think the course work is really set up for lpn to rn. lpns have the hands-on experience to do many of the cpne possible situations. i have worked for years as a paramedic and haven't done some of the stuff that i was "prepared" to do during cpne. you can overcome this if you know about this now and plan to get a job that will expose you to hospital/nursing home care and culture. i tried to do that after i applied for the cpne and received the study material. but that was too late. i didn't get any experience, i passed, but it would have been less stressful if i had been better prepared. one guy wrote that it would be the difference between running a code vs. running a code and trying to learn how to use the defibrillator at the same time. that is about right.
i found this site and it may also help you decide:
you will find a wide range of times to complete this degree. i took so long because i way over-studied a&p, microbiology, and psychology. if i wanted to take a chance, i could have tested for those after 6 months instead of 16 months.
hope this helps.
May 10, '07i am finishing my emt-paramedic certificate in august and am very interested in pursuing the RN license. does anyone know what the critical care setting at a VA hospital is like? i.e. is it in any way substandard to a regular hospital?
May 10, '07Quote from cpnegrad07extremely so. i'm an lpn pursuing my rn through excelsior.hope this helps.
May 11, '07it is all about your electives . if you have science electives then you can get the as, but if your electives are history or english things like that then you get the aas. if you look it up on the ec website it will tell you at the bottom of the degree plan.
Quote from silikahello, i looked in the excelsior college nursing catalog to find the difference between aas and as in nursing programs, but still don't see it. can any one explain? or i could just go to college for dummies. kidding. thanks. lina.