nursing education in USA after doing diploma from india

[solo_luv]

Hi all,

I am a first year male student of nursing doing a diploma course in india. I saw on the internet that in USA the authorities are making the rule that the minimum education requirements that allow a nurse to work is a Bachelor degree. As my cousins are staying there, i planned to go there after my studying and do further MSN studies if possible.

Now will the diploma education allow me to got there in the future or should i go for a B.Sc Nursing degree here. In that case will the B.Sc degree be considered equivalent to a bachelor degree(BSN) there .

Anyone currently working in USA, please kindly give ur suggestions.

Also is it possible that such a rule would come into existence considering the shortage of nurses in USA

[suzanne4, RN]

Yes it will because in the UK you are trained as a specialist and not a generalist. You are required to have a certian number hours of didactics as well as theory in all of the major areas including adult, mental health, and pediatrics..if you have the three year degree form the UK as a specialist it will not be accepted in the US without you taking the other sections first.

But please post only under one heading......................

[brit]

sorry about over posting, is there anyway I can make the hours up in the Strates?

Wendi

[suzanne4, RN]

Quite easily. Just contact some nursing schools in the area where you are planning on moving to. They usually have openings in their programs because of the number of students that have dropped after the first year.

You will be able to attend as a guest student, your degree would still be from the UK, but you will have completed the number of hours that you need in an approved program.

I would contact the nursing program directly...............not admissions or any other dept.

:balloons:

[peaceatstake]

hi there,

this thread has been helpful for me. Just happened to read it.

thanks.

[suzanne4, RN]

Please be aware that some of the information in this thread may be outdated, it is more than three years old.

There are more current threads than this that are available.

Best suggestion is always get the CES done to evaluate your transcripts, that is required for any further studying in the US. Use the credentials evaluation done by CGFNS as that is valid by all schools, some of the other companies are not accepted all over.

[peaceatstake]

Hi Suzanne,

Nice to hear from you.. :)

Actually, I am yet to enroll for a nursing program. I am 28 years old and do not have a degree but discontinued my studies in dentistry, wherein the 1st years subjects were Anatomy( Head and Neck regions), General Physiology, Biochemistry,and Dental Materials. The latter which of course does not apply for the nursing career that I am contemplating. Time is being a constraint for me, well so is money. So to work out the time, I thought getting a nursing degree from the US would be feasiblef, the maximum being 2 years? I am aware of the fact that I need to pursue BSN later on but that I can do at an affordable pace once I start working. Whereas in India, it takes us 3-4 years to complete the degree at an affordable price though. So I am actually caught on deciding between both. And on making up my mind to do nursing in the US, my percentage at school and college level has not been up to the mark. According to the Indian education system of grading, I stand with an average percentage of 63. Do you think I have a chance to be considered by any school or college in the US? If yes, then I would also appreciate it if i can get the names of the same. I am also searching for one that charges less tuition and fees for international students.

Also, please tell me which are the current threads discussing this issue. I am not able to get it in the search columns..:uhoh21:

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

Hi Suzanne,

Nice to hear from you.. :)

Actually, I am yet to enroll for a nursing program. I am 28 years old and do not have a degree but discontinued my studies in dentistry, wherein the 1st years subjects were Anatomy( Head and Neck regions), General Physiology, Biochemistry,and Dental Materials. The latter which of course does not apply for the nursing career that I am contemplating. Time is being a constraint for me, well so is money. So to work out the time, I thought getting a nursing degree from the US would be feasiblef, the maximum being 2 years? I am aware of the fact that I need to pursue BSN later on but that I can do at an affordable pace once I start working. Whereas in India, it takes us 3-4 years to complete the degree at an affordable price though. So I am actually caught on deciding between both. And on making up my mind to do nursing in the US, my percentage at school and college level has not been up to the mark. According to the Indian education system of grading, I stand with an average percentage of 63. Do you think I have a chance to be considered by any school or college in the US? If yes, then I would also appreciate it if i can get the names of the same. I am also searching for one that charges less tuition and fees for international students.

Also, please tell me which are the current threads discussing this issue. I am not able to get it in the search columns..:uhoh21:

What you need to be aware of is even if you go the the US and train apart from fees will be very high with retrogression in progress and no idea how long it will last and currently there are no ways to adjust to a working visa and after the huge amount filed in July/Aug 07 it could take a few years before this window reopens you may find it a problem once you complete your training to stay in the US as training doesn't guarantee you will be able to stay and work anymore

[peaceatstake]

Hiya,

Thanks for the reply but i am a little lost.. Are you implying that i would not be able to or rather find it difficult to get work even if i finish my nursing studies in the US? Or is the work visa procedure that bad to get even if i complete my studies in the US? Well, please excuse my terms if they aren't right. I am really new to all this visa thing. :uhoh21:

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

Hiya,

Thanks for the reply but i am a little lost.. Are you implying that i would not be able to or rather find it difficult to get work even if i finish my nursing studies in the US? Or is the work visa procedure that bad to get even if i complete my studies in the US? Well, please excuse my terms if they aren't right. I am really new to all this visa thing. :uhoh21:

Currently there is retrogression and very hard to change your status and be able to work in the US this covers both foreign people doing their nurse training in the US and nurses who trained in another country.Due to an extreme high volume of applicants in July/Aug going the adjustment of status route it will probably be several years before they will open that window again and no longer a guarantee training in the US will get you a visa. So to your 2 questions the answer is yes you are going to find it hard after doing your training to get a work permit and stay in the US. This is in the current situation and may change but I don't expect it to change for a few years

[peaceatstake]

Oh! Is that so? Well, don't you think by the time i finish with the program the situation might change.. ?? In that case, what happens to the ones who are studying nursing currently? How is the scene in UK or for that matter in other countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc...?

[suzanne4, RN]

Hiya,

Thanks for the reply but i am a little lost.. Are you implying that i would not be able to or rather find it difficult to get work even if i finish my nursing studies in the US? Or is the work visa procedure that bad to get even if i complete my studies in the US? Well, please excuse my terms if they aren't right. I am really new to all this visa thing. :uhoh21:

Yes, what we are trying to tell you that even if you graduate from the US and even obtain a license as an RN, there are no visas available and there is no guarantee that you will be able to remain in the US and work.

We have been under a retrogression for more than a year and do not see things easing up for sometime. There is also a limit of less than 10,000 visas per year for those from your country and there are many more applicants than there are visas available and that number includes spouses and children. So thinking that training here will help you, is not the case any longer. Chances are good that you will not be able to remain in the US to work when finished, would not start the schooling for the sole reason of being able to work in the US.

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

Oh! Is that so? Well, don't you think by the time i finish with the program the situation might change.. ?? In that case, what happens to the ones who are studying nursing currently? How is the scene in UK or for that matter in other countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc...?

The ones who are studying now will have problems and more than likely have to return to their home country as they can not change status or find the money to remain as students. UK as with the EU have requirement that the country has to employ from own country first then within the EU before the rest of the world, Australia, NZ, Canada etc you can probably get a job if qualified but depending on country will have to meet requirements and for some that means exams or bridging courses. Where ever you go student fees will be high as any country apart from your own you will be classed as International student.