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Hi all,
I am a first year male student of nursing doing a diploma course in india. I saw on the internet that in USA the authorities are making the rule that the minimum education requirements that allow a nurse to work is a Bachelor degree. As my cousins are staying there, i planned to go there after my studying and do further MSN studies if possible.
Now will the diploma education allow me to got there in the future or should i go for a B.Sc Nursing degree here. In that case will the B.Sc degree be considered equivalent to a bachelor degree(BSN) there .
Anyone currently working in USA, please kindly give ur suggestions.
Also is it possible that such a rule would come into existence considering the shortage of nurses in USA
Hi Suzanne
Thanks for your eagerness to guide me.
I will provide you with both the Diploma and degree classroom and training hours from the admission prospectus as soon as i can get it.
Regarding studying in US, the tuition fees are a bit costly and i didn't get any information about the work study programme. So it would be better to get a diploma here and go to US through green card and then continue with the studies if possible.
But will this Green card recruitment be there till 2010. what's your opinion?..
Green cards will always be here, whether they will continue then to be fast-tracked,no one knows for sure unless you have a crystal ball. Just like three years ago, they thought that H1-B visas would always be available for nurses.
Same thing, with the NAFTA visa, no one knows........................
Hi suzanne,
I just got the prospectus of the nursing course that i am currently doing. Below are the subject that will be taught to us and the no of theory and practical hours.
Tell me if this is equivalent to the professional course in US that is required for Visa Screen Requirements..
FIRST YEAR
SubjectsTheory HoursClinical Hours
I Anatomy and physoiogy120
II Behavioural science 60
1) psychology40
2) sociology20
III Fundamentals of nursing215612
1 Fundamentals of nursing175
2 First Aid20
3 Personal hygiene20
IV Community health nursing150288
1 community health nursing80
2 Environmental hygiene20
3 Health Education &
communication Skill 20
4 Nutrition 30
V English 30
TOTAL575900
SECOND YEAR
I Medical surgical nursing140414
II Medical surgical nursing2120414
III Mental health& psychiatric
nursing70215
IV Computer Education30
V Community health nursing72
TOTAL3601115
THIRD YEAR
I Gynaecology 120758
II Community health nursing2100215
III Pediatric nursing70288
TOTAL290126
INTERNSHIP(6 months)
I Educational methods for teaching
in practice of nursing45
II Introduction to Research40
III Professional trend and
adjustment40
IV Administration and ward
management45
V Health economics 20
VI Medical surgical nursing1&2252
VII Community Health nursing168
VIII Psychiatric Nursing126
IX Paediatric Nursing126
X Gynaecology168
XI Speciality(intern area of interest)84
Total194920
sorry the format was not proper. I am posting it again..
Tell me if this is equivalent to the 'professional course' in US as they mention in the law that is required for Visa Screen Requirements.
FIRST YEAR
Subjects
I Anatomy and physoiogyTheory Hours -120
II Behavioural science Theory Hours- 60
1) psychologyTheory Hours- 40
2) sociologyTheory Hours- 20
III Fundamentals of nursingTheory Hours-215Clinical Hours- 612
1 Fundamentals of nursingTheory Hours-175
2 First AidTheory Hours-20
3 Personal hygieneTheory Hours-20
IV Community health nursing Theory Hours- 150Clinical Hours- 288
1 community health nursingTheory Hours-80
2 Environmental hygieneTheory Hours-20
3 Health Education &
communication Skill Theory Hours-20
4 Nutrition Theory Hours-30
V English Theory Hours-30
TOTALTheory Hours-575Clinical Hours- 900
SECOND YEAR
I Medical surgical nursingTheory Hours- 140Clinical Hours- 414
II Medical surgical nursing2Theory Hours- 120Clinical Hours- 414
III Mental health& psychiatric
nursingTheory Hours- 70Clinical Hours- 215
IV Computer EducationTheory Hours- 30
V Community health nursingTheory Hours- 72
TOTALTheory Hours- 360Clinical Hours- 1115
THIRD YEAR
I Gynaecology Theory Hours-120Clinical Hours- 758
II Community health nursing2 Theory Hours-100Clinical Hours- 215
III Pediatric nursingTheory Hours-70Clinical Hours- 288
TOTALTheory Hours-290Clinical Hours- 1261
INTERNSHIP(6 months)
I Educational methods for teaching
in practice of nursingTheory Hours-45
II Introduction to ResearchTheory Hours-40
III Professional trend and
adjustmentTheory Hours-40
IV Administration and ward
managementTheory Hours-45
V Health economics Theory Hours-20
VI Medical surgical nursing1&2Clinical Hours- 252
VII Community Health nursingClinical Hours- 168
VIII Psychiatric NursingClinical Hours- 126
IX Paediatric NursingClinical Hours- 126
X GynaecologyClinical Hours- 168
XI Speciality(intern area of interest)Clinical Hours- 84
TotalTheory Hours-194Clinical Hours- 920
Don't we need 2 to 3 years of experience to be eligible to work in US?. I will be completing the diploma by 2007. But i am still confused, whether to go for 4 yr B.Sc Nursing degree, incase if they change the policies and allows only 4 year degree people to work there. any opinion?
Also I didn't get your quote saying 'CGFNS evaluates each nurse on individual basis'.
do you mean the interview evaluation or something else.
from your previous post I take it granted that the diploma here will be equivalent to the professional course in US. am i right?
Thanks for your comments....
Agencies want you to have two to three years experience, but you can contract directly with a facility and go as a new grad and start at new grad salary.
If you ask CGFNS right now about your curriculum, they will tell you that they review each application on an individual basis. Your classes look fine to me, but I am not the one that gives the final okay, only they do.
One problem with the diploma is that it may not get you credit for many of your hours unless the classes are university or college based. So if you were going to go on for your BS in the US, you may have to redo some hours. This doesn't always happen but it can. Best would be to send an e-mail to a few programs in the US and see if they would fully honor your hours.
Good luck. :balloons:
if i go for B.Sc nursing degree that is affiliated to a university then will i able to go for MSN studies after coming there. Here the colleges does not give any credit hours like the colleges in US.
YES :balloons: :balloons:
That is my point, if you go for the four year degree and not the diploma, it will be much quicker for you to go on for your MSN and not have to repeat much of the same.
suzanne4, RN
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E-mail me a copy of your diploma program, with all of the training and classroom hours. Perhaps it will meet the requirements for the US.........it basically depends on exactly what areas that you have had your training in and if enough hours.
For example, in the U.K., their diploma program only offers specialized programs such as you become certified for peds, adults health, or mental health. Let me see if your program will meet the requirement needed and then you can stay right where you are.
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