Nurses radical bid to knock out political curruption

  1. Radical bid to knock out political curruption:

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  3. by   pickledpepperRN
    Hit the road with the nurses for Prop. 89
    With modern politics now tied to focus groups, tracking polls, TV attack ads and the other oh-so-serious -- and often oh-so-boring -- accouterments of California elections, there's almost no time for good, old-fashioned political stunts that at least added a little life and personality to the voting business in years past.
    The exception: The California Nurses Association, which is out on the hustings backing Proposition 89, the campaign finance initiative


    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=10231
  4. by   Spidey's mom
    Spacenurse - I'm one nurse who does not believe in giving MY money to politicians to run their campaigns. Let them use their own money.

    I do not believe in publicly financed campaigns. Is there not enough PORK being purchased with my hard earned money? Now I have to give it to politicians?

    No thanks.

    http://www.noprop89.org/facts_factsheet.html


    steph
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    Big Labor is even against this prop.

    Labor Union
    • California Federation of Teachers
    • California State Council of Laborers
    • California State Firefighters Association
    • California Teachers Association
    • International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 3
    • International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 12
    • Orange County Professional Firefighters Association
    • Stationary Engineers, Local 39
    • Stationary Engineers, Local 501
    • United Food and Commercial Workers Local 324
    Taxpayer Groups
    • California Taxpayer's Association
    • Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association
    • League of Placer County Taxpayers
    • Kern County Taxpayers Association
    • National Tax Limitation Committee
    • National Taxpayers Union
    • Orange County Taxpayers Association
    • San Diego Taxpayers Association
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Oct 30, '06
  6. by   pickledpepperRN
    If you have any insurance, drive a gas powered vehicle, take medication, or have to pay anything to these corporations you are paying for the ads against proposition 89. They are also the BIG donors to political campaigns. In California this means mostly Democratic politicians get your money that YOU paid for insurance or energy.
    Big labor, polluting corporations, and greedy HMOs want to keep control of politics. They don't want to lose their control of politicians.

    Chevron Corporation
    Occidental Oil & Gas
    State Farm Insurance Automobile Insurance
    Southern California Edison
    California Hospitals Committee on Issues
    California Building Industries Assn. PAC
    United Healthcare Services, Inc. (HMO)
    Farmers Insurance Group
    Mercury General Insurance
    Pharmaceutical Research and
    Manufacturers of America
    Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E)
    Blue Cross
    Blue Shield
    Zenith Insurance Company
    California Bankers Association PAC
    Chamber of Commerce
    Baron Real Estate
    Republic Indemnity Company of America
    Safeco Insurance Company
    Great American Life Insurance Company
    Sempra Energy
    Sprint Nextel
    California Farm Bureau Federation
    California Restaurant Association PAC
    The Hartford (Hartford Life)
    Travelers Indemnity Company
    Waste Management & Affiliates
    Western Growers PAC
    Aetna, Inc.
    21st Century Insurance
    Fireman’s Fund Insurance
    California Motor Car Dealers Association
    California Business Properties Association
    California Independent Petroleum Assn.
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    Forgot the link:
    http://www.cleanmoneyelections.org/

    NURSES got signatures and are going to their churches, community groups, and making phone calls to explain the truth. CHEVRON paid for an ad calling nurses a "special interest"
    I for one am very tired of spending my days off work to keep our safe staffing law, keep unlicensed personnel from being allowed to pass meds and perform invasive procedures, and all we have accomplished to make it possible to care for our patients. I want to work to make life better instead of fighting a Democratic Speaker of the Assembly whose wife is a lobbiest for the healthcare industry that wants to avoid safe staffing and building safe buildings. THEY took our Medicare money to "give" to politicians who do their bidding. AND a governor who has NO RESPECT for nurses work.
    Last edit by pickledpepperRN on Oct 30, '06
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from spacenurse
    If you have any insurance, drive a gas powered vehicle, take medication, or have to pay anything to these corporations you are paying for the ads against proposition 89. They are also the BID donors to political campaigns. In California this means mostly Democratic politicians get your money that YOU paid for insurance or energy.
    Big labor, polluting corporations, and greedy HMOs want to keep control of politics. They don't want to lose their control of politicians.

    Chevron Corporation
    Occidental Oil & Gas
    State Farm Insurance Automobile Insurance
    Southern California Edison
    California Hospitals Committee on Issues
    California Building Industries Assn. PAC
    United Healthcare Services, Inc. (HMO)
    Farmers Insurance Group
    Mercury General Insurance
    Pharmaceutical Research and
    Manufacturers of America
    Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E)
    Blue Cross
    Blue Shield
    Zenith Insurance Company
    California Bankers Association PAC
    Chamber of Commerce
    Baron Real Estate
    Republic Indemnity Company of America
    Safeco Insurance Company
    Great American Life Insurance Company
    Sempra Energy
    Sprint Nextel
    California Farm Bureau Federation
    California Restaurant Association PAC
    The Hartford (Hartford Life)
    Travelers Indemnity Company
    Waste Management & Affiliates
    Western Growers PAC
    Aetna, Inc.
    21st Century Insurance
    Fireman's Fund Insurance
    California Motor Car Dealers Association
    California Business Properties Association
    California Independent Petroleum Assn.
    -------------------
    Forgot the link:
    http://www.cleanmoneyelections.org/

    NURSES got signatures and are going to their churches, community groups, and making phone calls to explain the truth. CHEVRON paid for an ad calling nurses a "special interest"
    I for one am very tired of spending my days off work to keep our safe staffing law, keep unlicensed personnel from being allowed to pass meds and perform invasive procedures, and all we have accomplished to make it possible to care for our patients. I want to work to make life better instead of fighting a Democratic Speaker of the Assembly whose wife is a lobbiest for the healthcare industry that wants to avoid safe staffing and building safe buildings. THEY took our Medicare money to "give" to politicians who do their bidding. AND a governor who has NO RESPECT for nurses work.
    "Special Interest" iis not a dirty word and the CNA is a special interest group that has the right to lobby our representatives, just as all the other groups have a right to lobby.

    Gotta run or I'd address the rest of your post . . . . bbl

    steph
  8. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from stevielynn
    "Special Interest" iis not a dirty word and the CNA is a special interest group that has the right to lobby our representatives, just as all the other groups have a right to lobby.

    Gotta run or I'd address the rest of your post . . . . bbl

    steph
    Tell Chevron - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGYr1...elated&search=

    Tell Arnold - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtRI-d82cxw&eurl=

    Tell this businessman trying to speak with his assemblymember - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oakHb...elated&search=
    Last edit by pickledpepperRN on Oct 30, '06
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Prop 89 is simply welfare for politicians. No thanks.

    I'll have to watch those links later . . .gotta take my 5 year old out to trick or treat. :spin:

    steph
  10. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from stevielynn
    Prop 89 is simply welfare for politicians. No thanks.

    I'll have to watch those links later . . .gotta take my 5 year old out to trick or treat. :spin:

    steph
    That is a line in the advertisement funded by Chevron and other corporations. It is not true.

    Take time to get both sides OR just pay attention to BIG MONEY 30 second ads.
    Each vote counts the same.

    http://www.calnurse.org/
  11. by   pickledpepperRN
    How It Works, Transportation Division

    April 5: Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announces the appointment of Stephen Matich, president of the Matich Corp. construction company, to the Contractors State License Board. Total Matich donations to Schwarzenegger: $89,800...

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/poli..._works_pa.html
  12. by   UKRNinUSA
    Quote from stevielynn
    Spacenurse - I'm one nurse who does not believe in giving MY money to politicians to run their campaigns. Let them use their own money.

    I do not believe in publicly financed campaigns. Is there not enough PORK being purchased with my hard earned money? Now I have to give it to politicians?

    No thanks.

    http://www.noprop89.org/facts_factsheet.html


    steph
    So basically he who has the most money wins - he who has the most money owes a bunch of favors to the folks who gave him that money - and the wealthy minority rule the rest of us who don't get any say in the matter, because we CAN't buy our way in. Have you really thought this through?? Open your eyes and realise that publicly financed political campaigns are NOT welfare for politicians but a chance to get the corporations (and their interests) out of politics and get the voices of the rest of us heard. It's all about leveling the playing field, as simple as that.
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from UKRNinUSA
    So basically he who has the most money wins - he who has the most money owes a bunch of favors to the folks who gave him that money - and the wealthy minority rule the rest of us who don't get any say in the matter, because we CAN't buy our way in. Have you really thought this through?? Open your eyes and realise that publicly financed political campaigns are NOT welfare for politicians but a chance to get the corporations (and their interests) out of politics and get the voices of the rest of us heard. It's all about leveling the playing field, as simple as that.
    I disagree with you and have thought about it. . "Silences the political activity of some groups, but not others; carves out an unfair advantage for its sponsors."

    California Taxpayer's Guide


    Raising millions of dollars from taxpayers to run the campaigns of politicians is not fair and I have a right to say I do not want to fund the campaigns of politicians and I will vote against this proposition because of that. steph
  14. by   UKRNinUSA
    stevielynn -we'll agree to disagree but I'm interested in your thoughts about an alternative plan to rid our country of political corruption. IMO it seems to be getting worse with no end in sight.

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