So much anger - page 3

When I first came to this forum in 2015 I was already done with my monitoring program but was hoping I could add some experience, strength and hope to help others get through this process, There was... Read More

  1. by   catsmeow1972
    I filed the P tests under unreimbursed medical expenses, because well it's medical and not reimbursed. Segueing back to the topic of anger inducing antics (sort of) I used to see where we could access some kind of form to submit for insurance reimbursement. That was a complete joke because it had no Dr's order and no CPT code or diagnosis on it. Even the best insurance company would kick it back and rightfully so. Besides, what they'd be willing to reimburse would probably be no where close to what we have to pay up front. The last time I went looking for that, it had disappeared. I wonder if someone pointed out what a crock that was.
    Given the tax scam of late, I think most medical deductions are going bye bye anyway, and I am undoubtedly going to be a standard deduction type too. I hope my tax guy can cram all this into professional expenses....it'd be nice....
    It still all circles back to the frustration of non support by the programs and lack of information on very important issues (like taxes) that forces us to resort to the 3rd hand rumors and innuendo, some of which ranges from scary to downright absurd. By the time you are at this a few years, one's absurd-ometer is pretty well tuned, but those folks that are just starting are freaked and scared out of thier minds. It's no wonder there is so much anger and bitterness, even from people who are appropriately on this roller coaster through hades.
  2. by   rn1965
    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    However, I can see it as a professional expense as we need to do these requirements to keep our nursing licenses. Interesting points but like I said I'm a standard deduction kinda guy unless I buy another house or condo which may compel me to itemize my deductions
    I think I will check to see if they can be deducted as professional expense? They are required, in a sense.

    I, also, have no other deductions (single gal, grown kid, blah, blah, blah).
  3. by   SpankedInPittsburgh
    Yeah, "deductible" stuff means nothing unless you itemize & I don't
  4. by   hppygr8ful
    Just want to say that if you are in Southern California I can refer you to a diversion friendly employer. What happens after you interview is up to you
  5. by   fibroblast
    I believe that the one's who criticize are the ones who couldn't find a job like you had, the one you and others (so-called) ruined by your diversion or other behavior. Then you turn around get a chance. Those ones probably didn't ever get a chance to work on med surg, ED, ICU, etc and learned that you get 9 lives while they never got a chance.
  6. by   catsmeow1972
    Wow.
    These are words of wisdom from a 'new LPN (of 6 or so months) who has lost their motivation to be a nurse?' Yes I looked at the poster's profile and other posts for insight in what they were writing in a thread on anger amongst nurses dealing with addiction/alcohol and mental health issues.
    This writer clearly is apparently perfect or has no friends or family with drug/alcohol/mental health issues. Must be nice to be so that you feel you can lash out at one of us not so perfect humans that have made mistakes, owned thier mistakes, paid thier dues and are now trying to pass on what they have learned in the hopes of making the trail a little easier for someone else.
    That kind of judgemental nastiness is why we close ranks on each other and are so scared to ask our own for help before it is too late.
  7. by   fibroblast
    Quote from catsmeow1972
    Wow.
    These are words of wisdom from a 'new LPN (of 6 or so months) who has lost their motivation to be a nurse?' Yes I looked at the poster's profile and other posts for insight in what they were writing in a thread on anger amongst nurses dealing with addiction/alcohol and mental health issues.
    This writer clearly is apparently perfect or has no friends or family with drug/alcohol/mental health issues. Must be nice to be so that you feel you can lash out at one of us not so perfect humans that have made mistakes, owned thier mistakes, paid thier dues and are now trying to pass on what they have learned in the hopes of making the trail a little easier for someone else.
    That kind of judgemental nastiness is why we close ranks on each other and are so scared to ask our own for help before it is too late.
    I believe they just asked for a reason. Not saying no one was trying to help. When you're the so-called 'good' nurse, you still get fired, appear before the board, dirty laundry hung for everyone to see.
  8. by   mimifromtx
    Cat,
    Yeah!!!! LOL, It must be Awesome to be "SOOOO FREAKIN SUPERIOR"!!! There is another thread that I'm finally done with because a participant was just really hateful and was so judgemental! He evidently knew EVERYTHING about monitoring. At first I thought he was maybe a BON or Monitoring program lackey. After reviewing his historical posts; he has a habit of trying to incite discord, has a history of VERY prejudiced and racially charged comments, and is very aggressive in posting his super great and all knowing opinions . He has a history of being in the military and "law enforcement" HAAAAHAAAA.. (Citizen's Arrest, Citizen's Arrest!!! Welcome Barney :/). Makes me really question why they are no longer in "law enforcement". With this kind of absolute TOOL in nursing, I'm really sorry that I ever opted to stay in nursing. I would much rather have a compassionate nurse with a previous history of substance abuse; than have an aggressive, arrogant, sociopath taking care of me or my family. And per your previous comment about nursing having those with "judgemental nastiness"..Yep.. that's why I sought out this forum to NOT deal with the nursing sharks, but to have the ability to get strength and comfort from those in the same predicament. Having a Horses' A** comment about their "Wizard of OZ" all knowing superiority (despite not being in our situation) , call us flat out LIARS multiple times, and just try to instigate problems makes me want to crawl back in my shell !
  9. by   Persephone Paige
    Anger is short lived for me, I burn out. I'm not an angry individual by nature, meaning I can get angry, but the anger fades. What I feel is weariness. The fall out of a recent, out of the blue 'positive' for Etg is still a 'thing' in my life right now. When I say 'out of the blue,' I mean no shady missed checkins, no dilutes, nothing...
    I have had a fairly serious job offer, after what I feared was a blight of Biblical proportions. I was granted permission to work in a treatment setting prior to the 'positive.' Apparently, that was taken off the table and I didn't know that. So, I've been pursuing this area. I would be great at it. I took my addiction about as low as I could. Multiple IPN referrals ( I wasn't compliant ), arrest, drug court, cancer ( while in drug court ). I have been through all of it, but I still believe in hope. And I'd love to impart that hope and the wisdom I've gained. I've been clean and sober since 9/25/13.
    Anyway, I find out Tuesday that to work in a treatment setting, I need 2 years of documented sobriety. The 'positive' urine means I don't have that. Even with 2 pEths, hair, urine to refute the validity of that positive.
    I didn't even get angry this time. I was crestfallen. OMG...
    If I was trying to use or drink and get away with it, I would've done what I did in the past when I wasn't serious about recovery ( used someone else's urine!) But, that's not what I'm doing. I didn't know I had consumed anything ( if I did and it wasn't contamination ), I just showed up for my screen like I always do. I didn't hide anything because I had nothing TO hide. And IPN knows this... The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior with an addict. If I'm using/drinking I don't pee out positive urines. Ugh...
    So, while I respect that there is suspicion, nothing about this situations presents my MO. I deserve suspicion. I'll take it. But, in the face of suspicion, exhausting all feasible options ( short of a liver biopsy ) to prove my innocence in the face of accusation, if my labs show I didn't use/drink, please find me not-guilty. That's all I ask. Don't use my past against me, because I have a past.

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