Nurse brutally beaten in a Brooklyn Hospital

[HGTVrn33]

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1606545#bmb=1

A patient at Brookdale University Hospital in Brooklyn viciously beat a 69-year-old nurse when she came to check on him Friday, leaving the woman with life-threatening injuries, officials said.

The patient, Kwincii Jones, 40, lunged at Evelyn Lynch as she approached his bedside at about 4:30 p.m. , police sources said.

Another nurse later investigated an intercom alert that was coming from Jones' room and found the suspect "stomping on Lynch's head," one police source said.

"He beat the crap out of her," the police source said. "He jumped out of bed and stomped on her. She was bleeding from the head."

Lynch was rushed to Kings County Hospital where she underwent brain surgery Friday night. She was listed in critical condition.

Jones had been admitted to the hospital on Linden Blvd. in East Flatbush on Wednesday after complaining of stomach pains, police sources said.

It was not immediately clear what prompted the attack.

[michaeljr]

As for my part I'm like you're co-worker, an elderly lady is getting beat down and all you are doing is (ordering) the patient/attacker to stop? Apparently the beating was very brutal as blood was all over the room.

Patient charged in brutal assault of nurse at Brookdale Medical Center | 7online.com

Cops: Brookdale University Hospital nurse attacked by patient | New York Daily News

Keep in mind though, this is NYC we are talking about, self help is discouraged and people lose their jobs for the such.

Texas, on the other hand, I'd take a gander and say that said attacker wouldn't be long for the world. Can't say it would be a loss, attacking an old lady warrants whatever force is necessary IMO.

[MrChicagoRN, RN]

Reason #39173 to stay armed. Signs and good intentions don't stop violence. This is the world, dress accordingly. Don't mean to sound cold, but in that environment, if you're not a step ahead, you're 10 steps behind.

So when suddenly attacked, a HCW could have whipped out her piece and wasted the guy?

More likely, if he saw a gun he'd take it, kill her...probably a few others too.

[michaeljr]

So when suddenly attacked, a HCW could have whipped out her piece and wasted the guy?

More likely, if he saw a gun he'd take it, kill her...probably a few others too.

Yeah, why not.

And how exactly would he have taken it? While he was being plugged, or after?

If someone tries to grab your gun, you create some distance with weak off hand, you pull the trigger with the other tucked. After shot one, raise to chest with two hand positive retention grip (thumbs forward), weaver or dynamic stance depending on balance, back up creating more distance, and center mass follow ups until the problem is no longer a problem. This isn't some mystical technique, it works every single day. 2 million times per year, a gun is used for self defense (that doesn't mean shot, that doesn't mean death, that could mean being drawn or present) This is per FBI crime database which is a compilation of every police report in the country. Whenever a crime was stopped, and a gun was used/drawn/"there", it is reported to said database. Don't bother contesting that number, as you'll look silly and I'll just provide the link, adding salt to the wound. I'm a pro 2A guy, and I know way too much on the numbers and legal end of this for my own good.

My experience? Gun owner and 3-gun shooter for 8 years.

You're from Chicago, so it's understandable if your experience is limited to what the tv tells you about south side. The ignorance concerning firearms over there runs deep. No fault of your own, just lack of positive exposure. Trust me though, two JHPs to the CNS "T", and nobody is grabbing anything.

[MrChicagoRN, RN]

^^^ that's a funny post.

All these people who think they can strap on, and they suddenly have the skills of Dirty Harry.

Don't bother with the stats. I'm not interested in derailing someone else's thread.

My knowledge of Chicago comes not from TV, but from actually being in just about every neighborhood in Chicago over the past 40 years, including high rise CHA projects.

Most people overestimate their gun skills, and being in a crowded hospital room is not a good place to try to draw, aim, shoot, before the person is on top of you.

I hope you never encounter a situation that challenges your magical thinking regarding the protective benefits of gun ownership.

[HGTVrn33]

I'm sorry that the post wasn't working. I posted from my phone.

And I don't care what is discouraged, I could not not and would not stand by and watch a 70 year old woman get beat with an IV pole. My conscious would not let me sleep at night.

Did they even confirm if the patient was a psych patient? The reports are really all over the place with this one.

[michaeljr]

^^^ that's a funny post.

All these people who think they can strap on, and they suddenly have the skills of Dirty Harry.

Don't bother with the stats. I'm not interested in derailing someone else's thread.

My knowledge of Chicago comes not from TV, but from actually being in just about every neighborhood in Chicago over the past 40 years, including high rise CHA projects.

Most people overestimate their gun skills, and being in a crowded hospital room is not a good place to try to draw, aim, shoot, before the person is on top of you.

I hope you never encounter a situation that challenges your magical thinking regarding the protective benefits of gun ownership.

Damn those pesky numbers and facts, those fantasy 2,000,000+ people that stopped an assault/rape/home invasion. Let's not pay attention to facts, emotion only is the name of the game right?

You did read that I shoot 3-gun right? Look it up. YouTube it. Let me know how inept we are lol. I'm more than confident. I get more trigger time per week than most cops get in a career. Ps, Dirty Harry was a hack on a good day.

But hey, better off not defending yourself and taking the whole death risk than potentially defending yourself and others, meanwhile facing the same risk... :crazy:

Me, I'll take my chances at owning my own destiny.

One question for you, have you ever been in a house fire?

[bloodorange]

Your opinion on concealed-carry laws has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the brutal beating of an elderly nurse in Brooklyn, New York. Frankly, I find it absurd and offensive that you think it's worthy of discussion on this thread.

[michaeljr]

Your opinion on concealed-carry laws has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the brutal beating of an elderly nurse in Brooklyn, New York. Frankly, I find it absurd and offensive that you think it's relevant at all.

I'm fine with open carry too.

I think it's completely relevant. Nobody was armed, nobody defended the old woman. If people were Armed, I dare say it would have ended much sooner.

[PacoUSA, BSN, RN]

In New York State, it is a class D felony to assault a registered nurse. The attacker is facing at least 7 years in prison for that. An aggressive prosecutor will surely add attempted murder to that and God forbid the nurse dies, the attacker is facing many more years behind bars. I would have no problem pressing charges and no one would ever change my mind -- I mean, isnt this law in place for our protection? If it will never be used, why have it?

Also, I would like to believe that this nurse working @ 70 actively chose to continue working as a nurse because she enjoyed it and not because she felt she had to because of financial reasons (not that I would want to work @ a hospital like Brookdale so late in life, but that is just me). I started nursing later than most in my early 40s and I plan to work into my 70s because I enjoy what I do and I like going to work. I will likely not remain in floor nursing by then, but certainly continuing with my career on some level. I see so many nurses my age with 20+ years in nursing already and I cant help to feel some regret not starting earlier. So on some level I feel I want to make up for lost time. But I digress ...

I will continue to pray for the nurse victim's recovery!

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[michaeljr]

In New York State, it is a class D felony to assault a registered nurse. The attacker is facing at least 7 years in prison for that. An aggressive prosecutor will surely add attempted murder to that and God forbid the nurse dies, the attacker is facing many more years behind bars. I would have no problem pressing charges and no one would ever change my mind -- I mean, isnt this law in place for our protection? If it will never be used, why have it?

Also, I would like to believe that this nurse working @ 70 actively chose to continue working as a nurse because she enjoyed it and not because she felt she had to because of financial reasons (not that I would want to work @ a hospital like Brookdale so late in life, but that is just me). I started nursing later than most in my early 40s and I plan to work into my 70s because I enjoy what I do and I like going to work. I will likely not remain in floor nursing by then, but certainly continuing with my career on some level. I see so many nurses my age with 20+ years in nursing already and I cant help to feel some regret not starting earlier. So on some level I feel I want to make up for lost time. But I digress ...

I will continue to pray for the nurse victim's recovery!

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Law doesn't protect us. It's an illusion of safety, nothing more. The implied notion that all people follow laws. Criminals do not, making them criminals. Laws are invisible suggestions that protect you as much as air. They don't stop people. I'm sure there were violence free workplace signs everywhere as well. Seemed to work well.

I know laws are for prosecution, and you cannot legislate human behavior, otherwise this incident would have been impossible. Unfortunately, this old woman found out just how effective laws are at stopping crime. Someone without regard for the law will not follow it because of consequence. Consequences are a inconvenience for such people, a looming threat that May or may not effect them.

I've never relied on law to protect me, because when you need protection, law does nothing of the sort. It gives a family peace of mind if a criminal is prosecuted, but it did not prevent this woman from finding herself in this dire situation.

What's the saying, when seconds count, police are 7 - 23 minutes away.

I hope for the best, and it's disgusting that a floor full of people didn't take it upon themselves to stop this guy.

[MrChicagoRN, RN]

Nobody was armed, nobody defended the old woman. If people were Armed, I dare say it would have ended much sooner.

From one of the links:

The beating stopped after another nurse walked in the room and saw what was happening. Jones locked himself inside of a bathroom until the police arrived and locked him up.

It ended as soon as it was discovered.

[CarryThatWeight, BSN]

I have a concealed handgun license and carry too, but in my state it is illegal to carry in a hospital. So unless I'm willing to commit a crime by carrying unlawfully, a gun would not protect me against a patient who is on the attack.