NP vs CRNA vs CNM

Published

Hey nurses!! I am a new graduate with my associates. I would like to set myself up to further my career, and I know that means getting a job related to the direction I wish to pursue. I kknow the first step will be to get my BBAN.I have done research and I am also aware you need a minimum of 1 year critical care for CRNA. Anyways I am looking to kind of compare and contrast the three to get some sort of direction. Can anyone give me advice, opinions or first hand experience with anything you know about any of these?Any good information out there as far as schooling, requirements, amount of time for schooling etc?

You can place DVM ahead of MD.

Clinical psychology PHD programs are hard to get in too I hear.

DMV has fewer spots, but is not as competitive as MD... Let's face it: They don't have to take the MCAT. They only have to take the GRE.

Modern IQ ranges for various occupations

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Critical Care and ED.

Are we really going to argue who's smarter like we're in grade school? By all means have a discussion about content of programs and the amount of science in one program versus another, but suggesting that you can be an NP if you're not succeeding in school because it's easy is absolute nonsense. I have maintained a 3.96 GPA all the way through undergrad and grad school, and my grad school has been incredibly challenging. Anyone who is not consistently performing above par will soon find themselves thrown out of the program. I will agree that there are some sub-standard programs out there, and I too wish to see some regulation on admission numbers and for-profit schools, but not all programs are painted that way, and any school worth its salt is going to give you a run for your money academically. I go to a Top 25 school and I can assure you that it's no walk in the park. Let's have a little pride shall we?

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Moved to post-grad student forum

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Are we really going to argue who's smarter like we're in grade school? By all means have a discussion about content of programs and the amount of science in one program versus another, but suggesting that you can be an NP if you're not succeeding in school because it's easy is absolute nonsense. I have maintained a 3.96 GPA all the way through undergrad and grad school, and my grad school has been incredibly challenging. Anyone who is not consistently performing above par will soon find themselves thrown out of the program. I will agree that there are some sub-standard programs out there, and I too wish to see some regulation on admission numbers and for-profit schools, but not all programs are painted that way, and any school worth its salt is going to give you a run for your money academically. I go to a Top 25 school and I can assure you that it's no walk in the park. Let's have a little pride shall we?

NP school is easy and it's a fact... Are there smart NPs out there? YES!

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Critical Care and ED.
NP school is easy and it's a fact... Are there smart NPs out there? YES!

No it's not a fact. Mine certainly isn't. You can generalize all you want but without something to back that up I'll just take that as anecdotal.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
No it's not a fact. Mine certainly isn't. You can generalize all you want but without something to back that up I'll just take that as anecdotal.

I don't know any serious grad degree in the healthcare industry that people can get while working FT. I guess nurses are the smartest group of people in the industry then...

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I don't know any serious grad degree in the healthcare industry that people can get while working FT. I guess nurses are the smartest group of people in the industry then...

How long have you been a nurse?

Up Vote Up Vote ×
How long have you been a nurse?

I was a nurse for almost 8 years... I still have a license, but I have not used it for a little over 2 years now.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I was a nurse for almost 8 years... I still have a license, but I have not used it for a little over 2 years now.

You haven't practiced for two years but you decided in the past year to join allnurses and post only negative comments about NPs. It's curious.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
You haven't practiced for two years but you decided in the past year to join allnurses and post only negative comments about NPs. It's curious.

I don't post any negative comments about NP... I just stated facts about what could have been a good profession, but failed leadership has driven it to the ground. Nothing personal! I have many friends that I went to school with who are NP now, and most of them have admitted that the NP concept is a scam the way it is now.

People are coming here asking how to find a preceptor and you think that's ok... You think these people will be ready to practice 'medicine' after they complete their 500-700 hrs following around a stranger... (someone that has no affiliation with their schools). You guys/gals need to start policing your profession because it's already reflecting bad on all of you in the part of the country I am at now.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I don't post any negative comments about NP... I just stated facts about what could have been a good profession, but failed leadership has driven it to the ground. Nothing personal! I have many friends that I went to school with who are NP now, and most of them have admitted that the NP concept is a scam the way it is now.

Lets be honest here, you have posted exclusively since joining the website about NP education and preparation, with very little experience with the NP role or the education/preparation process, other than perhaps what you heard from your NP friends. Why is that?

People are coming here asking how to find a preceptor and you think that's ok... You think these people will be ready to practice 'medicine' after they complete their 500-700 hrs following around a stranger... (someone that has no affiliation with their schools). You guys/gals need to start policing your profession because it's already reflecting bad on all of you in the part of the country I am at now.

No I don't think its ok, nor do most practicing NPs, check my post record. But I also don't think its "ok" for those that know very little about the role or the education to be the ones advocating for NP-level changes. It clouds the issue with ignorance.

How is it reflecting badly? You aren't even practicing right now, so enlighten us. Cite your sources.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
I don't post any negative comments about NP...

You do quite regularly. I've seen them in multiple threads.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
+ Join the Discussion