For nursing students like myself, I thought it would be helpful and interesting to see what type of salary is out there for graduating nursing students for different area's while comparing the salary of NP and RN. Looking around the site, I see different salary threads, but many replies are from nurses with 10 or more years experience, or the threads are years old and the starting salary is long outdated. I thought it would be more helpful to have a thread with Nurse Practitioners who are fresh out of school and what their starting salary is and what year that was.
List your starting RN hourly wage
How many years did you work as an RN before going for NP
Umm that is a gross oversimplification of incident to rules. The rules require the physician see the patient and give a plan of care. The NPP then follows the plan of care and bills incident to as long as a physician from the practice is in the clinic. This is for Medicare. Private payers are completely different.
The MD does not need to see the patient at every visit (just the initial visit) nor formulate the POC, rather must simply be "immediately available" in the office for consultation.
The MD does not need to see the patient at every visit (just the initial visit) nor formulate the POC, rather must simply be "immediately available" in the office for consultation.
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This is how our MAC interprets it. It is inline with what you see here:
There must have been a direct, professional service furnished by the physician to initiate the course of treatment of which the service being performed by the non-physician is an incidental part.
This means that the physician must see the patient first, in order to initiate the plan of care for that patient, and the NPP follows that plan of care during subsequent visits.
It also means that if a patient mentions a new problem during a follow-up visit for a problem with an established plan of care, the visit cannot be billed incident-to.
This is how our MAC interprets it. It is inline with what you see here:
There must have been a direct, professional service furnished by the physician to initiate the course of treatment of which the service being performed by the non-physician is an incidental part.
This means that the physician must see the patient first, in order to initiate the plan of care for that patient, and the NPP follows that plan of care during subsequent visits.
It also means that if a patient mentions a new problem during a follow-up visit for a problem with an established plan of care, the visit cannot be billed incident-to.
But there are several misconceptions that are represented in that op-ed that have since been revisited.
In all honesty I feel personally/professionally that NPs should always bill under their own number. Right now MDs are making an extra 15% on our outcomes and limping our NP outcomes data.
Partly correct. The schooling, "knowledge", and potential for superior outcomes have nothing to do with the compensation.
Huh? A physician's compensation has nothing to do with their knowledge base and potential for having better outcomes then a lower trained provider? You went on to explain that a physician is payed based upon their greater responsibility, yet you think that that has nothing to do with their higher level of training?
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The MD does not need to see the patient at every visit (just the initial visit) nor formulate the POC, rather must simply be "immediately available" in the office for consultation.
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