NP programs for non-nursing BS or BS holders

ICRN2008, BSN, RN · Sep 14, 2007

What part of the country are you interested in? Here are some programs in the Midwest:

The University of Illinois-Chicago has a program:

http://www.uic.edu/nursing/prospectivestudents/gep-about.shtml

The University of Minnesota-Twin Cities

http://www.nursing.umn.edu/MN/home.html

Marquette University

http://www.marquette.edu/nursing/documents/FAQ_DE.pdf

Case Western Reserve University

http://fpb.case.edu/GradEntry/index.shtm

There are many others if you do a web search.

capybaralife · Sep 14, 2007

Thanks for the info!

I'm in California where I'd ideally like to stay. I just checked out the University of San Diego's MEPN program, although it looks incredibly expensive :nono: at around $80,000 from what I can tell. (Just tuition.)

Know anything about programs in California???

mauxtav8r · Sep 14, 2007

Vanderbilt.

sunnyjohn · Sep 14, 2007

Sam Merritt

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http://www.samuelmerritt.edu/nursing/elms_nursing

sunnyjohn · Sep 14, 2007

Check out this link from AACN.

They give a detailed list of all of the accelerated direct-entry MSN programs.

http://www.aacn.nche.edu/Education/nurse_ed/nep_index.htm

California
Azusa Pacific University
California State University-Bakersfield
California State University-Dominguez Hills
California State University-Fresno
California State University-Long Beach
California State University-Los Angeles
California State University-Sacramento
Samuel Merritt College
San Francisco State University
Sonoma State University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of California-San Francisco
University of San Diego
University of San Francisco
Western University of Health Science

sunnyjohn · Sep 14, 2007

Note: All these programs are expensive. Some are a cheaper that $80K, but if you go after the NP Direct-entry (and not the generic MSN/ MN direct-entry) you will pay more.

If you want to keep costs low you can always go to a generic MSN/MN direct entry for 12-16 months, graduate, pass the NCLEX, work, THEN register for a Post-Master's certificate for the NP.

Maximize the $$$!

ebear, BSN, RN · Sep 15, 2007

EXCUSE ME????? How can you be a nurse practitioner if you're not a licensed nurse??? scarey thought. Is this what we're coming to?! I have never heard of any such program and would be very leary of such. Just who in the world are the instructors of these "NP's"? Other non-nurses??

ebear:nono:

sharann, BSN, RN · Sep 15, 2007

It upsets me as well to know that someone with a BS or BA degree in English or Math can get into an accelerated program(a BSN in 1 year or MSN in 2-3). Myself with an ADN cannot do this without ALOT of non=nursing coursework even if I have 10 years of critical care and other nursing experience.

I know I have the options to do what I want with regards to education, but I do not believe that MEPN's could ever understand what it is to be a nurse without being one(and I don't mean passing the NCLEX).

It seems as if this is another way to generate high level professionals in nursing to compete with the other professionals such as PA's and MD's and PT's with Bachelors and higher level education.

Tell me I am a jerk but I don't mean to be. I repect the enormous hard work and sacrifice that goes into furthering one's education(I too am in school for my BSN). Just think, how does one tell a nurse how to care for someone when that nurse has never really done it? How do you develop nursing sense and instincts without that direct experience you can only glean from having been there enough times to know what is important in care.

Take care

capybaralife · Sep 17, 2007

EBear and Sharann: You both raise some very valid concerns and have got me thinking about these issues. I'd like to make a polite suggestion, however, that one of you start a new thread, perhaps entitled: "NP's without nursing experience: can they be any good?" Or something along those lines.

From what I know about one of the most prestigious MEPN programs, that of UCSF, they actually encourage people with non-health care, non-medical backgrounds to apply. I think it has something to do with the value of varied life experiences. They do encourage some previous health-related work, volunteer work for example, and other obvious things like speaking a second language.

I'll just add that personally I volunteered in a free clinic for years before deciding to pursue a career in health-care. And though I can see the obvious annoyance of having an NP, without any RN work experience, trying to tell RN's what to do, I assume that already happens with doctors. (Joke, some of my best friends are doctors;).)

Perhaps if I have a few moments I'll start the new thread myself. If one of you does, however, please let me know.

Multicollinearity, BSN, RN · Sep 17, 2007

Yale has a MEPN program. It is three years.

sunnyjohn · Sep 17, 2007

EBear and Sharann: You both raise some very valid concerns and have got me thinking about these issues. I'd like to make a polite suggestion, however, that one of you start a new thread, perhaps entitled: "NP's without nursing experience: can they be any good?" Or something along those lines.
....

We've had that particular topic here in various incarnations.

I'll list a few....

https://allnurses.com/forums/f34/becoming-np-little-no-nursing-experience-193372.html

https://allnurses.com/forums/f223/direct-entry-msn-program-2-a-144628.html

Of course a new thread can never hurt! Fresh discussion is always good.