NP NO Masters

[FocusRN]

Hi, does anyone know of any NP certificate programs (No Masters Required) that still exist. I know they are supposed to be scarce, but some say there are still a few.

Also, do any of you know of any Post Masters NP programs, that don't have a Masters in NUSRING as a requisite.

TIA

[FocusRN]

Why wouldn't you want a significant clinical requirement? The more clinical you have the better prepared you will be for your role as a NP.

I didn't say that, I said drastic. Would you like my definition?

[SharonH, RN]

I didn't say that, I said drastic. Would you like my definition?

I would. I'm curious.

[FocusRN]

I would. I'm curious.

Sure, considering that the words drastic and significant , while both have many synonyms, aren't a synonym for one another.

Significant, menaing important; of consequence, is definitiove of clinicals that I would like.

Drastic meaning, severe or radical in nature; extreme, is definitive of clinicals that I would not like.

I would like to take the time to make note of the fact that the amount of hours spent in clinicals, doesn't determe the significance of them.

Thanks.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

While I do agree that clinicals are what you make of them especially in grad school, it is important to meet the minimum amount for certification which is 500 hours with a preceptor. Certainly, the more the better, provided they are of high quality where it is more than a "watch the NP" session. My best clinical time was spent with an NP where I was allowed to see patients, examine, propose interventions and write up notes and dictate. These are all skills better learned with someone watching over your shoulder. It helps to learn the basics in a controlled environment.

[FocusRN]

While I do agree that clinicals are what you make of them especially in grad school, it is important to meet the minimum amount for certification which is 500 hours with a preceptor. Certainly, the more the better, provided they are of high quality where it is more than a "watch the NP" session. My best clinical time was spent with an NP where I was allowed to see patients, examine, propose interventions and write up notes and dictate. These are all skills better learned with someone watching over your shoulder. It helps to learn the basics in a controlled environment.

Thanks! Very well put.

[SharonH, RN]

Sure, considering that the words drastic and significant , while both have many synonyms, aren't a synonym for one another.

Significant, menaing important; of consequence, is definitiove of clinicals that I would like.

Drastic meaning, severe or radical in nature; extreme, is definitive of clinicals that I would not like.

I would like to take the time to make note of the fact that the amount of hours spent in clinicals, doesn't determe the significance of them.

Thanks.

Um, I guess I had that coming.

I understand there is a difference between the words "significant" and "drastic". What I wanted to know is what defines a drastic clinical? In other words, what would you consider extreme or radical in the way of clinicals? Could you give an example?

[tiredfeetED]

Um, I guess I had that coming.

I understand there is a difference between the words "significant" and "drastic". What I wanted to know is what defines a drastic clinical? In other words, what would you consider extreme or radical in the way of clinicals? Could you give an example?

I dont know if there is such a thing as a drastic clinical. There are some difficult ones such as one of our trauma rotation in which you do rounds at 5 am and expected to present your patients to the attending/resident, so you should of already seen these patients a hour earlier ( late 1 warning, 2 lates equal failed). You go home when the last trauma leaves the O.R. so that means you might not get much sleep.

So i suppose this more drastic and not meant for everyone, but i rather enjoy the long hours over Clinic days which are very significant.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

tiredfeetER - Man - I feel for those in that trauma residency. I would bet those pts don't appreciate being woke up every hour x2!

[FocusRN]

Um, I guess I had that coming.

I understand there is a difference between the words "significant" and "drastic". What I wanted to know is what defines a drastic clinical? In other words, what would you consider extreme or radical in the way of clinicals? Could you give an example?

Sure, I suppose that I would call a drastic clinical situation, one that required an enormous amount of time. I don't have any number of hours in mind; but something that would basically render me unable, to work or care for my family for the most part.

[deleern]

UND in Grandforks ND has a RN to Masters Program for NP ON LIne it is actully one of the banner ads on this site. I have applied as i need to work at the same time.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

I worked full time while obtaining my APN. I used PTO time for my clinicals. It is possible to work full-time and do what needs to be done in your life. However, it requires a support network and the willingness of family members to help pick up the slack.

[SharonH, RN]

Sure, I suppose that I would call a drastic clinical situation, one that required an enormous amount of time. I don't have any number of hours in mind; but something that would basically render me unable, to work or care for my family for the most part.

Every clinical program requires at least 500 clinical hours both for graduation and for national certification. The great thing about graduate clinicals is that they are not as rigid as undergrad clinicals. In other words, you can set your own schedule you only need to coordinate it with your preceptor. Almost everyone I have ever met wanted more clinical hours however as you begin to understand how much you don't know. For various reasons I was unable to work full-time during my graduate school clinicals and it will be a challenge for anybody to do it but as Trauma stated below, it can be done. But it does require planning and an awareness of what you are up against.