Note from a new nurse to all the preceptors out there

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As someone who remembers what it is like to be new, I would like to share some of my thoughts to all the preceptors and experienced nurses out there.

Being new sucks. None of us like having to bother you every five minutes to ask a question. Yeah, we get it. We have questions about things that you think are "common sense" or "should just figure out ourselves." And it can be annoying at times. I assure you, we are not asking you questions to purposely take up your time or "get on your nerves." We just want to learn so we can do right by our patients once we are on our own.

Someone has to know how to do your job when you retire. All of us new graduates have heard about a billion times how inadequate nursing programs are at preparing new nurses. We all know that you were on the floor all by yourselves when you graduated because you spent five 8-hour days in clinicals each week and that your program lasted three years. Those types of comments and discussions are usually unproductive and inappropriate because they often occur in the work place in front of the new graduate and are not directed at those who can do anything about it. If you honestly feel that today's nursing education is inadequate, it may be appropriate to find out why and speak with those who can actually do something about it, such as the nursing schools themselves, or politicians who allow frivolous medical lawsuits to occur.

Schools are now wary of allowing nurses to complete invasive procedures in the clinical setting because of lawsuits. I didn't push my first IV medication until my last year of school. I graduated without every inserting an NG Tube, starting an IV, or pushing any narcotics or vasoactives.

No, it is not good. Yes, it is dangerous. But I assure you, we feel worse about it that you do. We are the ones who have to feel incompetent. When I graduated, I was terrified. I was terrified during the first year of my job and still am at times. It is the most horrible feeling in the world.

That is why we new nurses try to learn as much as we can. We realize it is our duty to learn and become as competent as possible because that is what is morally right and is what we need to do to take care of our patients. When you demoralize us new graduates by snapping at us, gossiping about us, and sabotaging us (on purpose or not), you are not only doing a disservice to us, but a disservice to our patients. When you make people feel like failures, you demoralize them, making it harder for them to learn and perform their jobs well.

That is why I am asking, if you are a preceptor who finds yourself being annoyed with your preceptee, or feels as though they cannot do anything right, to kindly step aside and let someone else take your role as a teacher. Just because you have been a nurse for a long time and do well at your job, doesn't mean you are a good teacher.

There are definitely preceptors who like to eat their young still, but you also have to understand, that a good chunk of the people we precept are lazy, know-it-all, unappreciative, and argumentative. I stopped precepting for awhile because I burnt out on trying to help and teach people who made each 12 hour shift into one long battle to do things right. I love teaching and answering questions (and preceptors should!) and I hate that a lot of people run into preceptors who like taking on new grads because they feel like they can get a bit of vacation and have them do all the work. But I don't think they're the norm.

Specializes in NICU.

While I agree with the OP, sometimes nurses aren't given a choice on whether they precept or not. I think that units should be asked who wants to precept and nurses volunteer....but unfortunately there aren't enough willing preceptors available for everyone. So that's just the way it has to be I guess.

I was blessed with an amazing preceptor, we work really well together and she is very patient. However, I think I am very independent and we work together rather than her overseeing me...in a way. I get there for my shift..take 4 of her patients and run. Occasionally I will ask her a question or seek clarification but otherwise we work together. I feel really lucky.

Specializes in ICU.
It comes down to time and money. Working nurses don't receive any additional pay when they have a student or new hire. If the student is on their final placement, we receive a whopping sixty odd cents an hour to be their mentor, do the assessments and documentation,etc.

So our workload and stress levels rise. We wind up doing the paperwork at home. Flash forward an the new grad returns. We now have to finish their hands on training in addition to our own duties. On some units it is a never ending cycle. The colleges and universities are constantly writing and asking for more preceptorship. Yet, when we have a student who needs remedial education and document it, we are accused of not being positive enough.

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I'm not certain where you work or why the situation is so dire there. But where I work, preceptors are paid a $2.00/hr differential for precepting and are not responsible for any more patients than their preceptees are assigned - which is no larger a patient load than the preceptor would be taking without an orientee.

"Finish their hands on training in addition to our own duties." ??? Huh?

Not excusing belittling/bullying/poor interpersonal skills here but how many are expected to precept without any training? Teaching and precepting are skills that few people have without some education and training. If those who precepting were trained and given a financial incentive, it would go a long way to eliminating this problem. People are much nicer when they are confident in what they are doing and have their efforts recognised.

10 years later, and I can still remember feeling those same feelings. Yes, I know I'm not as fast as you, but I'm doing my best. Yes, I know you managed a whole floor with one other nurse when you graduated, but that was a different era. Lots and lots of things have changed since then.

I have always tried my best to make new nurses welcome. Degrading them does nothing. I eventually left because of the snarkiness. And guess what? I'm a darned good nurse that would have been an asset to your floor if you all hadn't been such jerks.

Phew, I've been wanting to say that for a long time now. I feel much better now! :yes:

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I found out that one of my preceptors stated behind my back, "She has no idea what she is doing." I was a brand new nurse, just graduated, on my 3rd day orienting in the ICU.

These types of comments are the exact reason I wrote this post to begin with. I am not disagreeing with you that nurses used to get a more comprehensive and hands on education nor am I denying that nurses are not paid enough to precept. But I would like to point out that it isn't the new nurse's fault that their education was different from your education nor is it their fault that nurses don't get paid enough to precept.

Thinking back, do you think it was safe for you to "sink or swim" after 5 nights of orientation?

Thank you for this....I've been there as a new nurse. Was even called stupid by a preceptor because I had a question. I know nurses are stressed when handling newbies and their own workload. They just need to remember that they were new once too....:yes:

I found out that one of my preceptors stated behind my back, "She has no idea what she is doing." I was a brand new nurse, just graduated, on my 3rd day orienting in the ICU.

When I was in my final placement, I was one of three students that were preceptored on that unit in a year. They were selective about who they took. I was offered casual as a new grad and given a total of five orientation shifts because I "know the routine and patients". That was it. After those five shifts it was sink or swim and ask question as you go.

Now the unit, I work on has on average 12 placement students a year and upto ten new hires (either from the unit or the float pool) go through it. Nobody should have to preceptor four times in a year. It is happening all the time. We are spending more times teaching the skill than the colleges and uni's that are "educating" the new grads.

Nursing education needs to change.

These types of comments are the exact reason I wrote this post to begin with. I am not disagreeing with you that nurses used to get a more comprehensive and hands on education nor am I denying that nurses are not paid enough to precept. But I would like to point out that it isn't the new nurse's fault that their education was different from your education nor is it their fault that nurses don't get paid enough to precept.

Thinking back, do you think it was safe for you to "sink or swim" after 5 nights of orientation?

It comes down to time and money. Working nurses don't receive any additional pay when they have a student or new hire. If the student is on their final placement, we receive a whopping sixty odd cents an hour to be their mentor, do the assessments and documentation,etc.

So our workload and stress levels rise. We wind up doing the paperwork at home. Flash forward an the new grad returns. We now have to finish their hands on training in addition to our own duties. On some units it is a never ending cycle. The colleges and universities are constantly writing and asking for more preceptorship. Yet, when we have a student who needs remedial education and document it, we are accused of not being positive enough.

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

That is too bad that you aren't being paid enough to precept, but is it really the orientee's fault? If nurses have a problem with their pay, they should bring it up with management instead of taking it out on new graduates. If you have any issues with how the colleges are educating the students, you should bring it up with the instructor or someone who works for the school. Treating new graduates like garbage doesn't accomplish anything.

Also, when I was a preceptee, I am sure I was annoying, asking a million questions, but overall, I think it evened out considering that by my second or third week I was doing all the assessments and passing most of the morning medications.

I feel like some seasoned nurses have a negative opinion of new grads because of a few bad apples they've encountered. Unfortunately, the bad apples tend to be far more noticeable than the shiny red ones sitting next to them. Thankfully, most experienced nurses I've encountered are nice and willing to help out no matter how "stupid" my questions may be :).

I'm shocked at how much some schools/hospitals limit what students can do! I got to start IVs as soon as my second semester validations, hang blood, draw from PICC lines, push narcotics and so much more in my ADN program.

Most of the nurses that I am encountered have been very nice as well, but just like graduates, the bad apple preceptors stick out more than the shiny red ones.

The limitations to what students can do probably vary by state and by institution.

Just thought you would like to know, that I did this very thing. For the last two weeks I have had a new nurse to precept, I wasn't upset with the questions, I would rather you ask than not ask. I love to teach and usually train all the new nurses. But this one, I don't know if it was me, her, or what? I just can't seem to get through to her. I understand time management is a learned process, but you can't be putting your first assessment in the computer at 5pm. I have tried to light a fire, offer suggestions, I am frustrated so I went to my NCM and explained that the nurse needs more orientation time and that maybe she would benefit from a different nurse.

I guess we'll see how it turns out.

Is there a reason she is putting in her assessments late? Many times, new graduates aren't aware of the protocols and unwritten rules for entering things into the computer. She may be under the impression that it is okay to enter the information into the computer late, just as long as she actually completed the assessment and has it written down on her paper. Some of my issues during orientation stemmed from receiving conflicting information from different preceptors regarding the way I should be doing my job. For example, some of the preceptors enter everything into the computer as they are doing it and some just write the info down and enter it later.

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