I attended a community college in WA when I was 16-17. I was young, stupid, and didn't understand the permanency of grades/transcripts. As a result, my GPA was atrocious.
Fast forward to today, and I'm a 4.0 student at a community college in CA. My grades are extremely important to me. I'm planning ahead to when I transfer to a 4-year, and my plan was to transfer my grades from my current school, but not the one in WA.
But then a friend mentioned that the school would be able to find out and that they would consider it academic dishonesty. Is this true? I can't imagine that community colleges between states communicate with each other. But if they do, then that is truly unfortunate for my situation. I would be completely heartbroken if my 4.0 GPA were tanked just because of the stupidity of my teenage years.
Any advice or info on this situation? Thanks in advance!!
Honesty and integrity are core values of the nursing profession - included very explicitly in our Code of Ethics. These standards are also reflected in nursing education programs and state Nurse Practice Acts that direct our practice. When it comes to BON disciplinary actions, deliberate attempts to deceive by withholding information is considered to be the same as falsification of information. Our adherence to these principles has earned us 'America's Most Trusted Profession' for the last 15 years.
Now, in light of all of this, how do you think the school will react if they discover (and they will) that you have omitted information from your application?
Colleges and Universities have a national student clearinghouse which deals with student enrollment records and transcripts and it lists each institution a student has attended. I guarantee you, your school will find out about the missing transcript and you will be in a worse off situation than you are now. Definitely disclose the transcripts. You'll sleep better at night.
Okay, I'll definitely be transferring them. I wouldn't want anything to jeopardize my education/career. It's just so incredibly disappointing to find out that I'll be held accountable for 3 bad grades that I received before I'd even reached adulthood. It feels so absurd to me. I mean honestly, criminal records are less permanent than that in many cases. And I'm heartbroken to have to say goodbye to my 4.0. I know I can raise my GPA and that GPA isn't everything....but it's still disappointing. I've been in touch with my former school and they made it very clear that academic renewal/grade expungement would not be an option unless I moved back to WA and attended the same school for at least two semesters.
I think I'll be looking at making myself "attractive" in other ways. CNA and/or EMT training, extra volunteer hours, etc.
I do not think that it should affect you in the long run I mean you were younger than. I think what matters most is the current up to date progress. Honestly, based of my assumptiom I am sure that it would be considered dishonest and may result in dismissal or termination of your application or admitance. Usually, they will make you consent to it or advice you of such actions or decisions that may cost you your chances and opportunities. Through all the research I have done I have seen others with your similar concern, but they are pushing to pursue there degree and believe it or not they get admitted besides there previous slacking etc.
Even for programs that are so called competitve they literally still get considerations and others with high grades sometimes do not make it. I do not think you should be that concerned over previous activity. You were young and logically considering that factor and many others that constitute for the lack of success will surely not harm you now. You have an outstanding G.P.A your older and sure enough mature. You take things more serious now and that is one of the biggest difference from being younger to now and the progress. Sure enough if they are asking for personal information they perhaps have access to records on a system and its better to hear or be informed by the indivual other than having to hear or find out through another source. Good Luck!
My University found my school transcripts or at least the schools I went during the admission process. No doubt they followed the SS#. I registered one semester but dropped before starting and picked up the next semester. They were able to tell if I had taken classes during that off time at another college. If I had, I would have had to pay another admission fee. There are sure sneaky.
I was born, raised and educated in Canada so when I applied to my current school I had to show ALL my education (the good bad and ugly). What they did for mine was flip my Canadian degree in Networking into an AS in Computers (compromised of ALL electives, yeah - don't get me going on an AS of electives). However, at this point, since I am doing a completely different career path that degree does not even count on my current GPA or completion ratio.
Best of all - I cannot be expelled from the program for being dishonest. They know it ALL :)
Ladyscrubs--how did your school find out about your previous schools? I'm re-applying to a California community college nursing program so they have all my transcripts from last time except the most recent ones. I missed the deadline for submitted my most recent transcripts. The application itself is not due yet so either I can submit my remaining transcripts late and be disqualified or I can not disclose the schools on the application and not submit the transcripts and take a chance. I know an attorney who did not submit transcripts for law school and he is practicing law. I read that schools don't verify everyone as they don't have the time or resources.
The National Student Clearinghouse verifies attendance but they need the college's name, student's name and date of birth. If you don't disclose the college, then it seems they can't verify attendance. Am I wrong?
Someone else mentioned if you've completed a FAFSA for financial aid, your school attendance information is available to any financial aid office. Lastly, someone else said if it's a California community college you're applying to, they can access all the other California community college's records for every student.
You will be fine. No one is going to care that you got a few bad grades many years ago as a teen. I had the same issue and I got into Johns Hopkins! Good luck. (You can also discuss your old grades in application essay.)
HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD
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Honesty and integrity are core values of the nursing profession - included very explicitly in our Code of Ethics. These standards are also reflected in nursing education programs and state Nurse Practice Acts that direct our practice. When it comes to BON disciplinary actions, deliberate attempts to deceive by withholding information is considered to be the same as falsification of information. Our adherence to these principles has earned us 'America's Most Trusted Profession' for the last 15 years.
Now, in light of all of this, how do you think the school will react if they discover (and they will) that you have omitted information from your application?