NNP Outlook

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I am bringing this to the public forum here, to help benefit others who may be looking to learn more about Neonatal NP's, as suggested by the member who PM'd me this information, I hope it is helpful to our readers.

Like I had said before, NICU is a very self-selective area, you either usually love it or hate it and if you love it, there are less people who want to leave the bedside to be a NP and more people who want to leave the bedside who do not want to do nights, weekends, and holidays for the duration of their career.

There is a shortage of NNPs and as the age of the average NNP is in the late 40s (I believe I heard that), it's only going to get worse and there aren't as many programs available now. The wage of NNPs is noted to be among the highest of NPs due to it being an in-patient role, an intensivist role, and to being a shortage. I personally know of one hospital that offers 15% extra on top of their salary for being a NNP compared to other NPs in the institution simply because it is highly sought after.

If we have a flood of new NNPs, certainly wages could go down (as general economic rules dictate), but I don't believe even with a flood of new NNPs that this will happen. NICUs are growing larger, not smaller, and more NNPs are running NICUs with fewer neonatologists. This is good business for the hospital if you can have an attending neo supervising the care of 20 babies while the NNP runs the day-to-day show with 2 NNPs managing primary care of 10 babies each. This is what actually occurs in most of the academic centers already.

Another thing to factor in is that the pediatric residency no longer requires 3 months of NICU, they only require 2 months, which leaves these hospitals shorter (in these institutions, there is usually a team of residents who manage primary care of babies with a supervising neo). Now some programs will keep on their 3 months of requirements, but the fact that it's no longer required will mean that some programs will not have it and will thus leave the NICU short for those months and who would fill the job demand but NNPs.

But I would keep in mind that if you don't love babies, the job probably isn't for you. I'm extremely lucky that I love this and get paid so well for it. But I'd be miserable otherwise because I know that I will work some nights, some weekends, and some holidays for the rest of my career. It's part of the deal. And for some nurses, that's a deal breaker. I don't have kids yet, but I know it will be tough once I do.

Anybody else wanting to add to this, please share.

Thank you so much for directing me to this helpful thread ICUman :)

Specializes in Psych, Med-Surg, Critical Care, NICU.

What NNP program are you in? If you don't mind me asking.

Specializes in NICU, L&D and ED.
What NNP program are you in? If you don't mind me asking.

I know you weren't asking me, but I am in the NNP program at Duke. It is a distance based program.

I applied to the new NNP program at Wright State University.... Has anyone else applies to this program or know anyone who is in this program... I am having a hard time finding other applicants/students. Probably because it's brand new.

Specializes in ER, Public Health, Community, PMHNP.

Wonderful thread!!! Im the mom of a 25 weeker after spending 3.5 months in the NICU with him, I grew to appreciate NICU nurses a great deal, my son will turn 6 this year. I took time off nursing after his birth and recently retuned to work in the ER and also pursue my AGNP, graduating in June 2016. I always wanted to be an NNP but with two small kids I don't think I can balance work and my at home responsibilities, perhaps when my kids are older this may be possible. With that being said are their many opportunities for NNP's or PNP's in the outpatient settings?

NNPs primarily work in the hospital but there are lots of opportunities for PNPs in outpatient settings.

A few questions...

1. Can you explain what your responsibilities look like on a daily basis? Obviously with patient care there are going to be different things that come up shift to shift, but I'm mainly looking for a general overview of what the job actually looks like.

2. I read somewhere on here the patient load is about 10/NNP. Is this typical?

3. What was your schooling like? From the looks of the program I'd be getting into it's mainly clinical hours and a few online classes. 3 year program after you get your masters.

I'm in school after having my first child and am highly interested in L&D/NICU areas

Thanks!

I know you weren't asking me, but I am in the NNP program at Duke. It is a distance based program.

I know this post was from a while ago but how do you like Duke's NNP program? I'm looking into applying for it next year but I'm torn between Duke and Vandy, just wanted some insight.

Specializes in NICU.

What a great topic!

I currently work in a level III (30-50 babies, 23 weeks and up, gut surgery only, no cooling, no ECMO) that grows its own” NNPs. They have been urging me to pursue NNP since I was precepting on the unit. There is a stipend program that covers all tuition and expenses, requiring a commitment to the unit upon completion (most recent contract was for five years). It's a hard opportunity to pass up. My question…

As someone who thrives on the intensive” aspect of NICU, I'd eventually like to work in a larger unit with higher acuity. I'm the type who likes to take the sickest babies, and is always trying to figure out the odd cases that come through the unit. Initially I was planning on changing units and pursuing NNP down the line, but with current life circumstances, that move will not be happening at this point.

I'm a very loyal person and would put in my commitment to the unit and beyond, but I don't think this is where I want to spend the rest of my career. Would it be difficult to move from my current unit to a larger, higher acuity, research-type facility down the line? I'd probably be 40-45 by that point (early 30s now). I know people do it as RNs all the time, but would there be a downside to becoming a home-grown NNP and then trying to branch out? I'm quite open and adaptable, but I worry about outside perceptions and my chances of being given an opportunity. There isn't a lot of information on job outlook, so I thank you in advance for replies!

I think that sounds like a great opportunity! People move from jobs all the time depending on the circumstances - I don't see any downside to what you're considering as long as you fulfill your end of the bargain before doing so.

Specializes in NICU, CVICU.

Wow, what a great thread to find! I'm currently in an NNP/DNP program which I really like. I've worked in a NICU for a little over 2 years, with 4 years of previous adult CV ICU experience. I have to ask everyone for some advice though.

I love the NICU. I was ready to quit nursing after my CVI experience (though I now realize I worked in a very unhealthy unit). Being a NICU nurse made me really like my job again. It made me want to pursue a graduate degree and be a practitioner. However - I feel like I'm thinking more about my future, and what kind of life I want to have, and I'm concerned that being an NNP may not line great with that. I'm honestly at the point of frustration with working nights and weekends and at least half the holidays. My husband is in the military and frequently has to leave, and I can't imagine that once we have kids this kind of schedule will work out. I need to be available. I guess I'm wondering - gosh, will being an NNP work for me anymore? I can't work 24 hour shifts without a second parent, when he's gone, and we don't live close to any family. I've wondered if I might find a job in a follow-up clinic, or seeing the

Does anyone have any advice or thoughts? I'm considering switching to FNP, and part of me is excited at the prospect of working a more "normal" schedule, and feeling like it will work better with our military family life. And part of me is heartbroken. Ultimately, I want to be there for my family first. But I also want to help people, and have a career.

Wow, what a great thread to find! I'm currently in an NNP/DNP program which I really like. I've worked in a NICU for a little over 2 years, with 4 years of previous adult CV ICU experience. I have to ask everyone for some advice though.

I love the NICU. I was ready to quit nursing after my CVI experience (though I now realize I worked in a very unhealthy unit). Being a NICU nurse made me really like my job again. It made me want to pursue a graduate degree and be a practitioner. However - I feel like I'm thinking more about my future, and what kind of life I want to have, and I'm concerned that being an NNP may not line great with that. I'm honestly at the point of frustration with working nights and weekends and at least half the holidays. My husband is in the military and frequently has to leave, and I can't imagine that once we have kids this kind of schedule will work out. I need to be available. I guess I'm wondering - gosh, will being an NNP work for me anymore? I can't work 24 hour shifts without a second parent, when he's gone, and we don't live close to any family. I've wondered if I might find a job in a follow-up clinic, or seeing the

Does anyone have any advice or thoughts? I'm considering switching to FNP, and part of me is excited at the prospect of working a more "normal" schedule, and feeling like it will work better with our military family life. And part of me is heartbroken. Ultimately, I want to be there for my family first. But I also want to help people, and have a career.

Hello I will be starting my NNP program in the fall and work life balance is very important to me as well. I have seen PRN positions for NNP but of course you need experience to do a position like that. I have also seen 4 10 days. And 8-5 days. I guess it just depends on what's available in the area you are in. If NICU is your passion I say stick with NNP. The rest will work itself out. Good luck to you!

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