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Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if NYP only hires BSN. I've been searching the boards and have 3 different answers:
1. BSN is preferred but ADNs can still be hired.
2. if you are an ADN enrolled in a BSN program you are eligible.
3. they will not hire you no matter what if you don't have a BSN even if they Nursing manager wants you, HR will not allow it.
Does anyone have a definite answer. I know their website says BSN preferred, but often with hospitals preferred means only. I have attempted to contact HR with this question, but have not heard back. Thanks for any help anyone could give me.
Does it matter what RN experience you have? What if I have RN experience as a visiting nurse?
Your experience is based on when you started working as an RN and working fulltime . Also if you were an LPN prior, they do not give experience for that unless you were an LPN working at NYP. For example I was an LPN 2 years which should have given me 4 years of experience but they didn't count it, shoot!
just to throw this out ther for what its worth nyp is magnet hospital and there is a relationship b/w magnet status and BSN educated RNs. not to say ADN;s arent hired but as a new grad ADN just keep itin mind it could be a little 'tougher' to get hired w/o experience in a magnet hospital (unless you are bridging to BSN soon after)
I don't think you could be further from the truth on this one. Are there differences between the two campuses? Absolutely. But in no way could you say Columbia is a "dreaded step-sister." During my career I have worked at both Cornell and Columbia and I think you will find both campuses to have the same idea when it comes to nursing practice. The whole "We put patients first" thing isn't some random vision that the marketing department invented and isn't carried through - you see it across all NYP campuses and the nurses really live by it. I had amazing co-workers at both campuses when I worked there (I wouldn't have left if I didn't just move!). There is also one CNO for the whole organization, and she oversees all the campuses - ******** is a great leader and is really involved.Congrats to all who recently got a job at NYP, and good luck to the rest of you... I hope you have as great of an experience as I did!
Negative.
Not only are you wrong in your presumptions, you're essentially dead wrong. Regardless of ****** overlooking all 4 institutions (Cornell, Columbia, Allen and Morgan Stanley Children's Hosp), Columbia has been known, for many years, to be the anchor institution, if you will, holding everyone back. That is the one institution that has kept NYP from attaining magnet status. That isn't speculation or even an assumption that is a KNOWN fact amongst administrators.
Reasons? Simple.
Columbia up to just last year was still hiring ADN nurses.
Columbia's patient care is NOT on par with Cornell's patient care.
Columbia's medical staff is also more research heavy versus concentrated on clinical care.
How do I know this? I've worked at both institutions and as a PCD (MedSurg at Columbia & Cornell), I can tell you that EVERYONE knows that Columbia holds the NYP institution from true progress.
That being said, **** as well as a few other administrators have tighten the proverbial belt and made various changes that will allow for Columbia to come up the ranks. Namely, they have made the BSN requirement institution-wide, so nurses are mainly hired as BSN only. Also, they have implemented the new MSN requirement for all of the Patient Care Directors (PCD), this means that as a PCD, if you don't have an MSN within a 2 year time frame after this became instituted, you get demoted.
Again, let's not paint a wonderful picture of unilateral prestige when in reality there are some downfalls.
Nurse212
P.S. Also, for clarity's sake, NYP is NOT a magnet hospital yet. While they are ranked #1 in New York State and #6 in the nation, they have yet to receive that designation.
Be expected to be asked on why you want to work for the organization, your background, etc And you may be asked scenario questions. SO make sure you answer thoroughly and promptly. Also make sure your voice tone doesn't sound like you're just laying in bed somewhere. Speak and have a smile in your voice as if you are speaking to that person face-to-face.Hey guys,I recently signed up for my first phone screening/interview. Any advice on what to expect? I'm really nervous! Thanks :)
Good luck.
Negative.Not only are you wrong in your presumptions, you're essentially dead wrong. Regardless of ****** overlooking all 4 institutions (Cornell, Columbia, Allen and Morgan Stanley Children's Hosp), Columbia has been known, for many years, to be the anchor institution, if you will, holding everyone back. That is the one institution that has kept NYP from attaining magnet status. That isn't speculation or even an assumption that is a KNOWN fact amongst administrators.
Reasons? Simple.
Columbia up to just last year was still hiring ADN nurses.
Columbia's patient care is NOT on par with Cornell's patient care.
Columbia's medical staff is also more research heavy versus concentrated on clinical care.
How do I know this? I've worked at both institutions and as a PCD (MedSurg at Columbia & Cornell), I can tell you that EVERYONE knows that Columbia holds the NYP institution from true progress.
That being said, **** as well as a few other administrators have tighten the proverbial belt and made various changes that will allow for Columbia to come up the ranks. Namely, they have made the BSN requirement institution-wide, so nurses are mainly hired as BSN only. Also, they have implemented the new MSN requirement for all of the Patient Care Directors (PCD), this means that as a PCD, if you don't have an MSN within a 2 year time frame after this became instituted, you get demoted.
Again, let's not paint a wonderful picture of unilateral prestige when in reality there are some downfalls.
Nurse212
P.S. Also, for clarity's sake, NYP is NOT a magnet hospital yet. While they are ranked #1 in New York State and #6 in the nation, they have yet to receive that designation.
IIRC the only NYC hospital with Magnet status is Mount Sinai. Something they make very much use of in their advertisments.
Regarding the above post the only thing to add is that the merger between Columbia and NYP did *not* go smoothly and many feathers were ruffled on both sides. When you take two of the oldest and largest NYC hospital systems and try to put them together there was bound to be trouble. That the thing has lasted this long is a wonder to many. *LOL*
Hey EbonyRN,
Thanks for getting back to me. In terms of the scenario questions, do they pertain specifically to the unit/floor you're applying for or are they more generalized/generic nursing questions? I applied to a specialty, but I have more experience with acute care. Thanks in advance!
Clarissa
Hi Clarissa, for the phone interview it was pretty much general questions, but I was able to relate it back to my labor and delivery unit. Obviously if you have other experiences in different areas you can always refer back to that. And example of a general questions are: "Have you ever had a disagreement with a coworker, and how did you resolve it?" or "Have you ever gone out your way for your patient under a special circumstance and what was the outcome?"Hey EbonyRN,Thanks for getting back to me. In terms of the scenario questions, do they pertain specifically to the unit/floor you're applying for or are they more generalized/generic nursing questions? I applied to a specialty, but I have more experience with acute care. Thanks in advance!
Clarissa
But for my one-on-one interview, they were definitely unit specific only and very detailed.
BetterMeRN
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