Published Dec 4, 2008
tebs
9 Posts
Hi Suzzane,
I read in the previous threads that the local license is NOT NEEDED for the VSC...to be sure, i emailed CGFNS to ask about this, and their reply stated that it is a requirement to any of the services offered by CGFNS .. In my email, It was stated to them that I recently passed the NCLEX and the IELTS and that I neither applied or took the LOCAL BOARDS since I have no plans of practicing here.. IS THIS A NEW REQUIREMENT? Is there another way to get a VSC without the taking the LOCAL BOARD here?
5cats
613 Posts
If this is what CGFNS states then there is no way around it.
Plus how would they know otherwise that your education makes you eligible to practise if you don't have a licence in your country of education? Especially as it seems that there are many bad/bogus schools around.
And I don't understand why people don't take their local license exam anyway. It doesn't matter where you want to work, but it proves your eligiblitity.
I'm not aware of any country that would accept applicants without their initial license, or any employer. And they shouldn't in my opinion, since the exams are testing your skills, how would I know if your education meets at least your countrys standards without that???
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
Usually for VSC you just need English exams and NCLEX/CGFNS exam. However I can't understand why you do not want to take local license plus some states require a local license. Plus with retrogression how are you going to gain nursing experiences as most other countries require local license
If this is what CGFNS states then there is no way around it.Plus how would they know otherwise that your education makes you eligible to practise if you don't have a licence in your country of education? Especially as it seems that there are many bad/bogus schools around.And I don't understand why people don't take their local license exam anyway. It doesn't matter where you want to work, but it proves your eligiblitity. I'm not aware of any country that would accept applicants without their initial license, or any employer. And they shouldn't in my opinion, since the exams are testing your skills, how would I know if your education meets at least your countrys standards without that???5cats
5 cats,
I thought that the reason for me having to wait for 5 months for my ELIGIBILITY from the CA BON was that they are making sure that I was ELIGIBLE.
What I don't understand is that the CGFNS is looking for a license that I cannot use in the U.S? I thought that the NCLEX was already suppose to test my Nursing Knowledge, and since I already passed, I think that already is proof that I met the standards.
anyways, your right.. if thats what the CGFNs requires.. I guess I have no choice but to take it.
Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN
3,181 Posts
One way to screen people prior to the NCLEX is requiring a local license. Considering the majority of people don't pass their local license it can weed out improper candidates.
Siverdragon,
That's what I thought...just the English Exams and NCLEX.
When I applied for my eligibility from the CA BON, the local license was not a requirement. I did not take the local boards for the simple reason that it was not a requirement then. Anyways, if its needed, i guess i don't have a choice but to take it.
If that's the case, then it should not apply to me because I already passed the NCLEX.
You don't have your license yet? Many states are requiring this as well as a social security number.
As Suzanne has mentioned before people may fall through the cracks when getting permission to test and later when actually getting the license are denied when they don't have a local license.
As a nursing instructor, I tell my students to get their local license ASAP, it is one way the school is judged for quality, how many graduates pass the license test, the first time. Also you may want to return where you went to school you will not have a license.
What if you want to move to another state that requires it ?
I say when in Rome....
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
What are you going to do while waiting for a visa for the US? Remember that even though one may be granted permission accidentally to sit for the NCLEX exam, it does not mean that a license will be issued.
If you are looking at years before even having a chance at a visa, what you are you going to be doing? Not being able to work is going to make it extremely hard to get even an employer.
We are actually expecting the US government to require the local license before they will issue a visa, this is something that I sincerely hope that they put into practice. Every other country requires it.
Local license is only needed for CGFNS now for the CGFNS exam, that is a requirement. If the state does not require it for licensure, then CGFNS does not require it. But I tell everyone that they should go ahead and get it.
I don't get it. Why do you say that my sitting for the NCLEX was an accident, I know for a fact that when I applied, that the local boards was not a requirement then.
With all due respect ,In think that your hoping that the Government make it a requirement just because other countries are doing it is incorrect and unfair, why look for a license that you would not honor in your country?
I get your point having the experience, but sometimes, we have a different way of doing things here and it is more difficult to unlearn wrong practices than to learn new and correct ways.
I just don't understand why the CGFNS is asking for it eventhough it is not a requirement. I was just hoping that I can submit all the requirements for the VSC and have it ready, just in case some good news happens with the current visa retrogression and while waiting maybe I could take the local boards like most of you had recommended.
I don't get it. Why do you say that my sitting for the NCLEX was an accident, I know for a fact that when I applied, that the local boards was not a requirement then.With all due respect ,In think that your hoping that the Government make it a requirement just because other countries are doing it is incorrect and unfair, why look for a license that you would not honor in your country? I get your point having the experience, but sometimes, we have a different way of doing things here and it is more difficult to unlearn wrong practices than to learn new and correct ways. I just don't understand why the CGFNS is asking for it eventhough it is not a requirement. I was just hoping that I can submit all the requirements for the VSC and have it ready, just in case some good news happens with the current visa retrogression and while waiting maybe I could take the local boards like most of you had recommended.
The purpose of a nursing license is for public safety. The harder the process the better in my opinion ( and this applies to all nurses). You scare me when you state you learned wrong practices, I hope you don't try and learn the new practice on me or my family.
Also if you are serious about nursing why not a local license, how are you going to get professional experience?
Not sure why you think it is OK for the US not to look at people having a local license. Most countries require a local license before they will process your application so why should the US be different? We are already seeing some states make this mandatory and expect more to follow if not the government may make it mandatory. Plus only a few years ago most states required CGFNS exam which again requires a local license.