New IR laws 'NOT HAPPY JOHN'

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if the new IR laws are passed do you think that we will be able to recrute more ppl into the nursing profession?

Hi froghair,I and many other colleagues would agree! Can I say, I've been working with an R/N from New Zealand, in emergency on night duty. She has said that their nurses Union fought for pay rises which were slow and protracted. I'm in for a fight, we will let the people of Australia know what this dictatorship is trying to do...And I'm an Ausriginal! Along with the Aboriginal! I'm not going to lose all that our predessors fought for! We nurses are a formidible workforce. Another thought...poor quality nursing will creep in if our wages and conditions are cut!

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Specializes in ICU.

Ausiriginal!! LOVE IT!!:yelclap::yelclap::yelclap: Can I share that one?:clown:

Tell you what Froghair - when it comes to describing the IR laws I feel tempted to make an exception about the language:angryfire: Words are not enough!!

I think WE, as nurses should put a submission directly to Prof Ian Harper who has been delegated as the head of the new AFPC (Australian Fair Pay Commission) as there are only a few other professions where the welfare of the recipient of that professional service is so tightly tied to the profession's industrial action. In that, I mean we have fought and fought and fought for adequate staffing and conditions not just for us but for our patients. This is what really concerns me - that we will end with impossible workloads as well as poor conditions.

The police are in a similar bind to us.

POLICE have attacked the Howard Government's proposed workplace laws, arguing that individual contracts in policing could foster corruption and result in dangerous performance targets for arrests, fines or searches.

In submissions to the Senate inquiry into the laws, two police unions have sought exemption for police.

The Australian Federal Police Association, representing AFP officers and support staff, said the laws could erode integrity.

"An individual who inclines to exercise his or her discretion in a way consistent with their supervisor's inappropriate prejudices may be very ably rewarded on a high dollar secret deal (at taxpayer expense) that is subject to no independent scrutiny," it argued.

A spokesman for Workplace Relations Minister Kevin Andrews rejected the fears, saying state police would remain in the state systems.

AFP staff would be subject to the new federal laws, but would continue to be governed by their certified agreement.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/police-want-out-of-ir-laws/2005/11/14/1131951100179.html

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Tell you what Froghair - when it comes to describing the IR laws I feel tempted to make an exception about the language:angryfire: Words are not enough!!

does that mean i have a green light, because this not swearing or saying "boobs":chuckle is killing me

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Specializes in Med/Surg/Ortho/HH/Radiology-Now Retired.

I'm seriously considering coming out of retirement and taking up the baton, once again! Done it in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's. Be buggared if I'll sit back and watch all we fought for be lost for the next generation!!!!! NO WAY!!

Better still, I'll stay retired, but do it all voluntarily. They can't sack me that way!!!!

Or, maybe I'll just join the Australian Wheat Board!!! :rotfl:

Memo to horrible, er sorry, honourable ?, government:.......

Don't give kickbacks to foreign governments!

Give equality and fairness to own people!!!

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does that mean i have a green light, because this not swearing or saying "boobs":chuckle is killing me

geez froghair, that must be a bummer for you!!! :rotfl:

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and i'm an ausriginal! along with the aboriginal!

love it!!!! ausriginal! :yelclap: :chuckle when anyone asks me my nationality, i tell them i'm an indiginous australian! well, i am! look up the true meaning of the word, indiginous. "born of that land". :rolleyes: i rest my case!

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geez froghair, that must be a bummer for you!!! :rotfl:

its harder than you think:smokin: if it wasnt for the pool being in swimming condition, having the last 2 days off and being able to fire up a cigar i would of poped a vessel by now:chair:

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:rotfl::rotfl:

Found this site http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/yoursay/

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very scary times ahead. a few weeks ago on meet the press the guest speaker was a professor of IR. he gave really good talk and you just wonder why people like him wernt consulted. he said that we will have these IR reforms at least until 2010

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In fact, the person Howard chose to head up the Fair Pay Commision has NO ) nada experience in wage negotiation or industrial relations instead he is an academic, a life- long academic. This is from his public CV

Previous Employment

April–November 2004 Acting Dean & Director, Melbourne Business School

2002–April 2004 Assistant Director & Dean of Faculty, Melbourne Business School

1998–February 2002 Professorial Fellow, Melbourne Business School, University of Melbourne

1993–January 1998 Ian Potter Professor of International Finance, Melbourne Business School, University of Melbourne

1988–February 1993 National Australia Bank Professor of Monetary and Financial Economics, Faculty of Economics and Commerce, University of Melbourne

1985–July1988 Lecturer in Economics, Australian National University

1983–April 1985 Head of Special Projects Section, Research Department, Reserve Bank of Australia

1982 Temporary Lecturer in Economics, Australian National University

1979–1980 Part–time Tutor in Economics, Australian National University

1977 Part–time Tutor in Economics, University of Queensland http://www.mbs.edu/main.cfm?pid=772

As you can see he has spent virtually his entire life at University. His only job outside of University was at the reserve bank and yet THIS is the person Howard has appointed to oversee the wages and conditions the poor people working at Mickey D's are going to get.

This is the other half of why I am concerned

The head of the proposed new Fair Pay Commission, Ian Harper, revealed yesterday that he wants to use the post to do "God's will" and will rely on his faith and values to make fair and balanced decisions for low-paid workers.

In a speech to the Australian Christian Lobby conference in Canberra, the respected economist also admitted he did not know many low-paid people and would ask his "church connections" to arrange for him to meet the people whose wages he will decide.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/10/29/1130400402032.html

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in a speech to the australian christian lobby conference in canberra, the respected economist also admitted he did not know many low-paid people and would ask his "church connections" to arrange for him to meet the people whose wages he will decide.

well duh! while you're at it mate, ask your "church connections" to arrange a meeting with the pope!!! then again, he probably doesn't know many low-paid people either!

:angryfire :uhoh3: :cool:

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ive just got to say it.....he sounds like a right royal dick with the personality of a brick. were screwed. and he falls into that group of people i really can stand religious people with no idea outside the world they live. we might as well walk around grabbing our ankles now as were all going to get it

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