New ICU Nurse- Preceptor Problems

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Hello everyone, I just wanted to get some general feedback and get some opinions on my current issue. I recently graduated from a nursing program in March with my RN license. I was offered a job at a local ICU in a large facility and accepted the position. The original position offered was for a nights, but I would orient on days for a month to see the physician's faces and what not. Anyhow, the other stipulation was that I would have one main preceptor and one backup preceptor. Well, my main preceptor got sick (really sick) and was out for the rest of my dayshift orientation. However, I really didn't have a backup preceptor. Instead, I was passed between 6 other nurses. The problem with that was I never really got the hang of one style of any procedure or route of documentation. I tried to pick up on a little something from everyone, but it was hard. (The last time I even took a class that had more than 2 alternate professors, I had to drop because I wasn't learning anything.) By the end of my dayshift orientation I had not even taken one patient by myself. So, I was already behind when it came to night shift.

When I started nights I had one preceptor. It was much better than days. Slowly, my preceptor started just hanging around the desk and waiting for me to come ask questions. When I would ask questions, I would get a question with a question "well, what do you think is going on?" I put a lot of thought into my questions and tried to figure out the answer before I even asked, but always got the same response. Over the course of the next couple of weeks my preceptor was asked to step up to charge nurse often. Three would be nights at the end of the shift where she would literally tell me I had to evaluate myself because she didn't see me all night. This was becoming an issue for me and management because they said I was not progressing like I needed to be. I agreed with that statement because I felt like I wasn't learning anything from her either. After the first encounter with management, they ended up letting my preceptor take three days of vacation to orient at a different facility for a PRN job. So I ended up switching to a less critical unit for those three days (Where I didn't get any negative feedback from my step-in preceptor). Now I'm in a position where, I am going to either have to transfer units all together, or sign a corrective action plan stating that if I am not able to come off orientation within the next 30 days, then I will be asked to resign. The only problem with transferring units is that there are really no positions within my network of hospitals that are of interest. You go from titrating vasopressors and dealing with vented patients to passing out pain medication before rehab. I am not harping on any rehab nurse because I know they are masters of time management and have a difficult job as well, but I never really had much interest in rehab, and I still don't. I already told management that if I were to try to extend my orientation then I would request a different preceptor. They told me they didn't know if they could do that for me or not because the preceptor pool is so thin.

As of now, I've been off work for a week and supposed to have a sit down meeting with my clinical director, my current preceptor, and my team manager. At this point, if I tell the truth, my preceptor is going to feel like I am throwing her under the bus, and so will my TM because I get criticism from them (which is fine because I'm a new nurse and constructive criticism is how I get better), but I don't get many concrete examples of how to fix the issues they see I have. This is how it feels "Your time management needs work, fix it. cluster care." "You need to think critically." I think that last statement is a bit of a cop out because you need a firm foundation on a particular subject before you can "critically think"

Lastly, my TM's are still using examples of things that affected my nearly a month ago, that have not been an issue since. Example, I had a PICC line that would flush and draw at the beginning and middle of shift. Well, come time for lab draws it won't flush or draw. I try to troubleshoot it by patient positioning etc., but no success. I get an order for cath-flo to see if that would work. No success... So the only alternative would be to stick them. I got the stuff. I gather my stuff and try to stick this person multiple times, but they have poor veins and I couldn't get the stick. I asked my TM to help and 45 minutes later they come in to help. They ended up getting the stick and we got the lab work. My TM told me that they felt that lab draw "threw me off track and derailed me and I couldn't recover from it, and that I should have anticipated that PICC would not draw." (I'm still confused on that one) That was nearly a month ago and hasn't really happened since, but they they still use it as a way to evaluate me.

My question is, so far, I don't feel like I have gotten the support I needed in the ICU (I don't expect to be spoon fed material, but I didn't expect this either), and from everyone's previous experience, is it worth trying to stick it out another 30 days to try to make it work, or just work on transferring units? I ask this because I feel like someone has already made up their mind about me it won't matter how ready I am to come off orientation in 30 days, it won't happen. I just don't understand how upper management can take any information from my preceptor as valid considering she hasn't worked with me in 2 weeks. A patient's condition can change day by day, so does my abilities, and evaluations from 2 weeks ago don't seem like a fair way to assess my ability and progression.

Specializes in LTC.

It really sounds like you need to take some responsibility and find a way to work with this chaotic training. I see a lot of blame being thrown around but no owning of your preceptorshiip.

If they can't give you a month with one solid preceptor I'd give rehab a try.

icuRNmaggie,

I haven't been with my preceptor in two weeks because for one week she was on orientation at a PRN job that she took, and this past week I worked one shift and was told to take the next night off so they could get with my clinical director and decide whether or not the unit would be a good fit for me still. I have been off work for about a week now.

I think what frustrates me the most is that I do not know what I need to do to improve. I'm doing what I can to manage my time more efficiently, and I'm taking any advice I can and trying to use it. I have asked for concrete examples of how to improve what they want me to improve on, and I have yet to get solid answers. I have previously stated that I could be at home studying more for the job, other than that, I am positive that the rest takes practice. I will say that my learning curve has not been it's usual steep angle, and maybe that is my problem. Maybe I'm supposed to be able to provide myself with in depth answers from minimal explanation and potentially know what I need to fix and come up all my own solutions to fix it. I am going to try to get some concrete answers and expectations by the time 8:00 rolls around tomorrow morning. I am also going to try to find out their exact concerns, and how I can address them. That is probably something I should have been doing the whole time. That is something else I could have done better.

@ wooh, I would embrace the chance to orient with one person, and only one person. Don't get me wrong, there was some consistency on nights with my current preceptor, but maybe I have been missing out on the bigger picture, which would help guide my thinking, care, and prioritization... The problem is, I don't know how to fix it. I think that is why I have been progressing so slow as well. On top of some inconsistency from the beginning, I'm having trouble pulling it all together... Uggg

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU.

You have received a lot of good advice, especially from Flexiseal and hereIstand.

If they extend your orientation for another month, ask your preceptor, what are my weak areas, what should I focus on to become a better Critical Care Nurse, can you suggest some goals for the remainder of my orientation. Take notes, really focus. Be mature and professional in how you express yourself.

You have managed three patients pretty much by yourself, be sure to mention this - that is definite progress.

I get a sense that you may have an unusual personal style that some people may find off putting. You really need to clear the air and apologize to the preceptor for your criticism of her teaching method. She seems to be avoiding you and had stopped sharing her expertise with you weeks ago. Try to salvage this relationship if you possibly can. Let her know that you respect her abilities and that you want her to be comfortable working with you in the future.

best wishes, Maggie

So the meeting was today. My preceptor legitimately threw me under the bus. She literally lied about events that never occurred. When I denied that it even happened and that wasn't how the situation transpired, it seemed to fall on deaf ears and they tended to side with my preceptor. If she would throw me under the bus like that I can only imagine what else she has been saying. I opted for them to extend my orientation for 30 days, and they agreed. However, the new preceptor they gave me was one of the people I rotated with before, and he is a brilliant nurse, but does not play well with others. This is why he has had two other orientees and and they pulled him out of the position to precept because of his communication skills. However, they decide to offer him to me as a preceptor when they know he has a track record like that. Seems like a half-orificed option. I really feel like they are trying to get rid of me. I mean, somewhere down the line someone has made up their mind about me and they won't settle for anything less than me being gone from that unit and since I haven't given them a good reason to get rid of me, they want to collectively pick up on small things to build a case. I think I'm done with this facility. It does not seem like it is going to work at all.

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU.

Welcome to nursing. There are some real vipers in this business and you are better off elsewhere. Who knows one day you may be interviewing one of them or part of a flight team coming to pick up one of their patients.

Now you have a guy who hates to precept. Did they give you any goals, paperwork or just focus on a lot of trumped up nonsense?

If not, it's safe to say that they are trying to get rid of you. For whatever reason, this is not working out. It may pettiness, a toxic environment or something that you said or did. Regardless, keep chin up mouth shut and nose to the grind stone do your job. Prove them wrong. Get the certificates of completion for the critical care course and every bit of training such as CRRT and IABP. Do try your best to stay there for a year. Then apply to other facilities. Give three weeks notice once you have a job offer and not until you do. Do not list anyone there as a reference.

If they were trying to get rid of you, you'd be gone, not given 30 more days. You've complained about the other preceptors, so now you're stuck with this one. You can make the most of it, or pout and hope to find another job. Your choice.

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU.

I know of a situation in which a not so great RN sued for not being given an adequate orientation. He or she may be in progressive disciplinary action, we don't know, but you are right make the most of it.

Specializes in ICU/PACU.

I may have the wrong impression here, but no one will like a complainer. You could just be venting online, understandable. But sometimes your attitude will show through. You really need to be able to work well with others and have a positive attitude. Stop worrying so much about who your preceptor is and just focus on you doing your thing as a nurse.

Specializes in None yet..
I remember once I came in to orient and just ended up taking over another nurses two patient's so she could go orient to the Rotoprone bed. My preceptor was also busy that night orienting other people to CRRT. So, I ended up doing my thing alone and didn't really see her. So yeah, it has been ongoing... I don't feel supported there at all. I mean, I've gotten more help from other nurses on the unit then I have my own preceptor. Toward the middle of our orientation my preceptor would try teaching me stuff that was way outside the scope of my practice.. I mean, the inner workings of the ventilator. I know I have to understand the vent to an extend, but the crap we were going over was not necessary info because we have Respiratory therapists for that. We would waste tons of time doing stuff like that and at the end of my shift she would tell me I have time management issues, and I wasn't learning jack about my actual job. I made a comment to my TM about that once and said that I felt like we were wasting time with her sending me on wild goose chases for information and that maybe it would be better if she would back off that and start teaching me pertinent material. I guess she might have taken that to heart and just became detached... I think that is when it all started to get worse.... Now I'm behind on orientation, and I'm at risk of being terminated. I mean, I'll take some responsibility in this. I could have been studying more at home and asking other nurses more questions and getting feedback from them. My preceptor can't do everything for me.

You could also have been documenting and asking for help from your manager at every step of the way. Maybe not too late to start now? Give them the objective statements you've given us and tell them you want to work with them to fix the situation. If management can't make good on their promise to orient and train you, look for another spot that will give you what you need and ask management to help you. Often "promoting out" works for everyone. (You get a situation where your needs are met; management gets to slide out of its training failure.)

I respect that you are looking to see what you could have done and can do on your part to remedy your situation (study at home, ask more questions) but please remember you are not the only gear in the system! Others have responsibilities, too, and it sounds as if they aren't coming through. They need you to report what's happening.

I was being trained by a woman who wouldn't let me do anything and even told me to go sit down at the nurses station. I went home the first day and cried. I went to my manager on my lunch break and that one sentence got me assigned to a new trainer immediately that same day. A decent manager will want you to succeed.

Start squeaking, little wheel!

Specializes in None yet..
Ask if you can orient with one preceptor on night shift for those 30 days. Do not badmouth or place any blame on any of your preceptors during your meeting with management. I would tell the manager that I understand it's difficult to put me with one preceptor and everyone is trying their best, I just feel like I would do better with one person because of my learning style.

Just my opinion and what I'd do. I would try to make it work. I started in ICU as a new grad too. My preceptor was a total *****, but I found my way. You'd be surprised what 4 more weeks will do for you. Good luck.

I agree, no badmouthing! Focus on identifying and solving problems that will meet your managers needs... and just so happen to coincide with yours.

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