New grad 30 weeks pregnant and starting on L&D department

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rntim49

92 Posts

Specializes in ER/ float.
I hope the above clarifies her Federal Rights. And if anybody does happen to get discriminated against because they are pregnant in either Illinois or Indiana, my husband is an attorney and would love to take those cases!

now there is spam for legal services? this thread has become sad.:eek:

It's not sad at all, its ridiculous that mothers still have to fear for their jobs because of ignorant people who don't recognize the value of women in the workplace, and women should be aware of their rights. I myself at 19 was fired from a telemarketing company for taking an "unauthorized leave of absence" for going into labor. The company basically called it a vacation because I hadn't been there a year. I was clueless and didn't know my rights. Now at 28, I do, and it ****** me off that pregnant women should have to fear for their jobs. We are at the absolute bottom of the barrel for maternity rights for women, and we're so ready to give those away saying employers should be able to fire pregnant women if they don't notice they're pregnant on an interview.....??

mef06011

121 Posts

sorry but this is the ignorant response. This is a pre-existing health condition that will interfere with her job and ability to perform it. Your screw the employer BS attitude is why nurses are not taken seriously at all in this day and age. Another poster brought up the lawsuit ticket? come on people, Not saying anything during or even before the interview about your pregnancy constitutes being un truthfull and deceptive. end of story. :uhoh3:

Are you kidding me? Pregnancy is NOT a "pre-existing condition." Your "screw the nurse" attitude is why men can't be taken seriously when discussing issues of maternity leave. The United States is the ONLY industrialized nation without mandatory paid parental leave. Your attitude hurts women, babies, and families.

Maternal Leave in the U.S.: Far from Adequate

KarmaWiseRaven

251 Posts

This is an absolutely ridiculous and ignorant comment. She does not have to disclose her pregnancy on an interview. And if they thought like you imply, and didn't keep her because they didn't feel like having a pregnant nurse, she'd definitely have reason for a lawsuit. AFTER she is offered the position, she can discuss her maternity leave because that would be a more appropriate time.

We are humans, we're not robots or computers or even men. We need to be understanding that women are a very important part of the workforce, and because of that, its important to be supportive of them as mothers.

This is a LABOR and DELIVERY floor - its possible that the person interviewing actually recognized her skills and was supportive of the fact that she is a mother as well.

Why are you attacking me?? I was being honest. As your husband being a lawyer who cares. And as far as lawsuit's go really who TF care's. Coming on a posting and threatening with your lawyer husband or spamming about your husband might be against TOS rules. I'll let a Admin decide that. Don't attack me because my statement was honest. I don't and wont know what will happen and did you miss the part when i said a and i quote( IN MY EYE'S A NURSE IS A NURSE PREGNANT OR NOT !!) Or did you miss that part also did you miss the part when i said. THESE ARE MY THOUGHTS USE THEM AS YOU WISH. You should read the words of what one is saying and not judge by emotions. Also just to let you know your in for a reality check when you go for clinical's with your attitude. ( Please read: Why Do Nurse's Eat Their Young) Your Lawyer husband wont beable to save you then. Now these are my thoughts use them as you wish.

Pregnant women have rights. If people don't believe they have rights, there are attorneys that will enforce those rights. That is the point I am trying to make - that women have rights and a means to enforce those federally guaranteed rights. I have been on clinicals, 9 of them so far (CNA), and never had a problem. I don't have an attitude - I do stick up for my rights, and the rights of pregnant women. I do plan on having a third child, and will assert my rights if I need to. Other than that, don't foresee any problems. I've been in the workforce professionally for the last 10 years, and have been well liked and well respected. I am supportive of those that need support.

AwayWeGo

52 Posts

I worked with a new grad who was hired around 30 weeks pregnant on L&D. Physically, she did great helping laboring moms. The only downside was she didn't have enough PTO saved up for her maternity leave. She was able to take the leave, just didn't get paid. Other than that no problem. :)

mef06011

121 Posts

Pregnant women have rights. If people don't believe they have rights, there are attorneys that will enforce those rights. That is the point I am trying to make - that women have rights and a means to enforce those federally guaranteed rights. I have been on clinicals, 9 of them so far (CNA), and never had a problem. I don't have an attitude - I do stick up for my rights, and the rights of pregnant women. I do plan on having a third child, and will assert my rights if I need to. Other than that, don't foresee any problems. I've been in the workforce professionally for the last 10 years, and have been well liked and well respected. I am supportive of those that need support.

Well said, sister. We need more women who will stand up for women's rights, in the workplace and out. I don't think anyone's attacking anyone else, women just stand a lot to lose when people don't encourage and enforce the rights of women (whom politicians seem to forget are uhhh...you know, 50% of the population, not a "special interest group")

It makes me sad that we still live in a world where there is any doubt as to the legal ramifications of firing a woman for the very personal decision of starting/adding to her family. Shouldn't we be encouraging women to have healthy births and healthy families, and with that, encouraging her to spend with her new baby? Punishing women for having babies doesn't help anyone.

AnneS

54 Posts

Specializes in med surg.

Seems this has gotten off track. Its not about a nurse that becomes pregnant after being hired. Its about a woman that is already, what, in her 7th month of pregnancy and she is not sure if the person that hired her is aware she is pregnant? You guys gotta look at this from the other side. What if you were that manager that believed you had just hired a competent new grad who the hospital is going to spend a fair chunk of money on training, only to find out that the woman you thought would be able to put in the time is pregnant and will be leaving shortly on maternity leave? I'm sorry. I feel for the new grad that needs to get any job she can, any way she can. I was there too, not too long ago and I realize its a tough market. But you need to be honest about certain things. I think it speaks to the integrity of the person. I surely hope it works out for you, but you need to come clean about your pregnancy immediately.

I don't think the hospital owes you the job just because they said you were hired. You still have a few hoops to jump thru and personally, I would feel that not mentioning your pregnancy was omitting a very important fact, that I, as hiring manager would have really wanted to know before I offered you a job. Its not an invasion of privacy. It directly affects your ability to perform your job in the coming year. You will be taking time off that you haven't accumulated. You will probably need additional training because of the lapse in training. Shame on you for hiding behind a coat, notebook and purse.

HoneyDew70

27 Posts

I started L&D orientation in the top hospital in NYC with another RN who was "ready to pop," as we say. Four weeks into orientation she went into labor and went back to orientation after two months off with baby. Her job was never in jeopardy due to her being pregnant and she was obviously very pregnant at all the interviews prior to being hired.

We have to be stronger advocates for women and families. There is absolutely no reason why other developed and developing countries have us beat when it comes to these women and family issues.

Seems this has gotten off track. Its not about a nurse that becomes pregnant after being hired. Its about a woman that is already, what, in her 7th month of pregnancy and she is not sure if the person that hired her is aware she is pregnant? You guys gotta look at this from the other side. What if you were that manager that believed you had just hired a competent new grad who the hospital is going to spend a fair chunk of money on training, only to find out that the woman you thought would be able to put in the time is pregnant and will be leaving shortly on maternity leave? I'm sorry. I feel for the new grad that needs to get any job she can, any way she can. I was there too, not too long ago and I realize its a tough market. But you need to be honest about certain things. I think it speaks to the integrity of the person. I surely hope it works out for you, but you need to come clean about your pregnancy immediately.

I don't think the hospital owes you the job just because they said you were hired. You still have a few hoops to jump thru and personally, I would feel that not mentioning your pregnancy was omitting a very important fact, that I, as hiring manager would have really wanted to know before I offered you a job. Its not an invasion of privacy. It directly affects your ability to perform your job in the coming year. You will be taking time off that you haven't accumulated. You will probably need additional training because of the lapse in training. Shame on you for hiding behind a coat, notebook and purse.

Again - Federal Law prohibits what you are saying - you are saying that "the hospital does not owe her a job just because she was hired" ---- YES. It DOES. Because pregnancy CANNOT be a factor in hiring or firing. Why is that difficult to understand? Why do people think the Civil Rights Act should not apply to hospitals because it would make it easier for them to staff?

muneca13

88 Posts

Specializes in Emergency,Tele,Peds,Home care.

...By the way I just want to apoligize in advance if I offend anyone...I am totally glad that we have people like(2011 nursing student) you to stick up for us ..perhaps women of older age are stil stuck in the era in which women did not have any rights!I recently went on an interview in which the boss rambled about how people with kids were totally unreliable and always late...little did she know that I too was about about 30 weeks pregnant!...point is I was hired and did my job well not to mention I did have a job when I came back..I totally went over her ahead and advised the director I was pregnant...suprisingly she was ok with me telling her unlike that manager...So you go ahead and boast about your husband because alot of people don't know that they have options and you indeed may be able to offer her a resource she did know she could obtain..

lakec4me

42 Posts

Specializes in OB.

Hang in there, OP!

I, too, was a new grad and 17 weeks pregnant when i got my first job in L&D many years ago. The manager who interviewed me did not know i was pregnant and i did not disclose this. i worked full time night shift and actually went into labor at work at 38 weeks. i finished out my shift (thought i ate a bad salad from the cafeteria), went home & showered, and came back and delivered a baby. Twenty four years later, i have 3 awesome sons and still work as an L&D nurse. :)

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