Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.
Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA
good luck to you...so you will be in sunny queensland, do you know someone there? i would like to work interstate in the future...probably somewhere in the northern part of australia.
i hope there will be a unifrom pay rates across australia now that the national registration has taken effect...if my memory serves me right the state of victoria has the lowest pay rates for nurses...
Victoria also is the only state with nurse patient ratios, thats why they are not paid quite as much. Believe me go work in another state and have 20 people to look after, compared to Victoria's 1:4 and see what you prefer.....money versus exhaustion. It is only 1-2 dollars and hour compare that to RN pay in home country.
Please understand I am not being picky, but to tell everyone they will get 38oo to 4500 a month is a bit misleading especially for a nurse with zero experience starting on low pay scale....and the tax is very high when not permanent resident, so this amount is not a 'clear' amount. This I take it is in a public hospital as well, the jobs are now becoming more available in aged care, where the money is much lower than that of a hospital, Can be as low as $20.00 and hour.
Also cannot be same wage scale across Australia in the public system as there are 7 different employers in state governments, I doubt that Victoria will give the biggest pay increase when they have patient ratios, just to make it up to Queensland pay, then they will want more so on and so on.
How can you be given skilled migrant visa when you do not have nurses registration and be a skilled migrant?. You are saying, Australia will give you a skilled migrant permanent visa to be unskilled migrant for a time until you can be a skilled migrant?
Gee everyone would qualify for that! Is it that easy.
Dude, it's possible. You can go to Australia as immigrant as long as you have 2 years clinical nursing experience in the hospital. Go to DIAC and ANMC website.
This route is possible:
1. Take IELTS (7.0 each test component)
2. Apply skills Assessment at ANMC
3. if ANMC skills assessment is positive (suitable for migration), then Lodge Permanent Resident Visa at DIAC (visa 176 is faster - State Migration Plan)
4. When you obtain your Perment Resident - 5 years then that's the time you apply for Registration at Australian Nursing Board.
Again about your question if Australia will accept you as skilled migrant without Australian Nursing Board.... My answer is YES, subject to a condition that you will satisfy the requirement of ANMC. Remember that ANMC is the skills assessment body for Nurses overseas and it has nothing to do with Australian Nursing Board (as far as SKILLED MIGRATION is concerned). Your BS Nursing degree, hospital experience with your PRC license as RN is enough to be recognized as registered nurse overseas.
Yes it is true, that if you're result in the ANMC skills assessment is NOT SUITABLE FOR MIGRATION, then they will refer you to Australian Nursing Board for registration. But again, if you are working as a nurse with a satisfactory qualification then why worry?
Again, i am not a NURSE. It so happened that i read, ANMC, AHPRA and DIAC as i am helping a nurse friend.
If my idea is wrong please correct me but make sure it is supported with a FACT. Thank you.
o Australian Immigration and Visas ( basic information )
o ANMC vs. AHPRA
Situation no. 1
- Example Mr. Haoyin will apply for permanent residency, he will pass through ANMC, but the process is cheaper, faster and easier because he already has an Australian RN license.. He does not have to worry because his "clearance/assessment" will definitely be released mainly because he is already an Aus. RN..
Situation no. 2
- Ms. Xyz who does not have an Aus. RN license, would apply for permanent residency, he will pass through the ANMC, but the process is more expensive, longer, and tedious (because you will have to submit many many many school documents).. After receiving ANMC clearance/assessment, and later if she is granted permanent residency, then she will arrive in Australia, well, she cannot yet work as a RN because she does not have Aus. RN license, she must apply at AHPRA and undergo BP..
Good luck..
AGAIN PLEASE REFER TO MY COMPARATIVE COSTINGS ON MY PREVIOUS POST. I would say skilled migration route is cheaper, although you cannot work as a nurse instantly when you arrived in Australia but again you can work odd jobs or apply for scholarship to support your Bridging Program.
Every person in Australia that calls themselves a Registered nurse must go through or have been registered by AHPRA, there is no way out whether the ANAMC say you are skilled or not, there is not way out. Nor will they give a nurse from another country skilled migration PR visa without being registered in Australia, happened to my cousin and her friend. They had to apply for student visa's do the bridging course (after being assessed by the then state nurses boards that no longer exist.) become registered with AHPRA then apply to AMNC for assessment for DIAC. The ANMC advises DIAC that the nurse has the qualifications to be skilled migrants, hence the need to be a registered nurse in Australia first. AHPRA does not have rights to advise DIAC on skilled migration, this can only be done by ANMC. This board is just more or less an advisory board to the DIAC, nothing to do with nurse registration.
This is from their website.
The ANMC skills assessment is for migration purposes only.
To register as a nurse in Australia please contact the
Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia on 1300 088 590
So, you are saying with a BSN if ANMC say my quals are ok, then I can Register as a nurse in Oz.? without going near AHPRA?
Maybe you didnt get me. ANMC is an skills assessment body for those nurses (non-australian) who want to migrate in Australia. You will be assessed by ANMC according to your education, qualification and experience.
Once you satisfy ANMC's requirement then they will send you letter something like: SUITABLE FOR MIGRATION.
After receiving their positive assessment, you may apply for Permanent Resident at DIAC, or you may apply for State Sponsorship - State Migration Plan (it's faster coz it takes 6 months only).
If DIAC approved your visa as permanent resident, then you may now go to AUSTRALIA as permanent resident.
Work as cleaner or janitor to support yourself for the cost of Australian Nursing Board Registration and Bridging Program for you to become an Australia RN. OR apply for scholarship through study now pay later plan.
Every person in Australia that calls themselves a Registered nurse must go through or have been registered by AHPRA, there is no way out whether the ANAMC say you are skilled or not, there is not way out. Nor will they give a nurse from another country skilled migration PR visa without being registered in Australia, happened to my cousin and her friend. They had to apply for student visa's do the bridging course become registered then apply to AMNC for assessment for DIAC. The ANMC advises DIAC that the nurse has the qualifications to be skilled migrants, hence the need to be a registered nurse in Australia first. AHPRA does not have this jurisdiction only ANMC.
This is from their website.
The ANMC skills assessment is for migration purposes only.
To register as a nurse in Australia please contact the
Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia on 1300 088 590
OK THANK YOU CERIDWYN, their policies might have changed now. I'll take a look at the statement again on their website coz i might have overlooked it yesterday. You see, i'm finding ways to go australia in cheapest way. hahahahah. I'll get back to you. Another depth study.
Dude, i can't find the clause stating that "will they will not grant Permanent Resident Visa without registering first to the Australian Nursing Board".
What i Knew is that "they will not grant Permanent Resident Visa without registering first to Australian Nursing and Midwifery Council".
Take a look at this:
FROM ANMC WEBSITE
The following clause shows that you can you can satisfy ANMC skills assessment (suitable for migration) without Australian Nursing Registration board.
Nurses need to be in good health and have a certain level of education and experience. To work in a hospital or other health care area, nurses need to pass a health examination which includes a chest x-ray.
To work in Australia, nurses need to be registered or enrolled by the nurse regulatory body in the State or Territory in which they want to work.
The Australian Nursery and Midwifery Council (ANMC) website has more information including links to State and Territory nurse regulatory bodies.
Applicants for General Skilled Migration must obtain a skills assessment from the ANMC even if currently registered to work as a nurse in an Australian state or territory.
the council says, you have to be registered to australian nursing board to become an australian nurse.
australian nursing board is not a pre-requisite in anmc skills assessment.
you can either register first to australian nursing board or have your skills be assessed with anmc and once the assessment is completed (suitable for migration), they would advise overseas nurses to register at australian nursing board to become an australian nurse. again, anmc registration is a requirement in skilled migration and not the australian nursing & midwifery board (anmb).
there are types of assessment in anmc: modified and full
modified - those who have gained registration first in australia
full assessment - those who have gained their registration first as rn outside australia, example philippine rn
simple logic:
anmc is an skills assessment body for overseas nurses who want to apply for migration in australia.
anmb is a certifying body to become an australian nurse.
if anmb will take over the work of anmc for registration in skilled migration, then what's the use of anmc?
Victoria also is the only state with nurse patient ratios, thats why they are not paid quite as much. Believe me go work in another state and have 20 people to look after, compared to Victoria's 1:4
I'm in Victoria... this doesn't seem to apply to me... I have way more than 4 patients to look after... and I never had only 4 patients to care for at any time.
Only if you are a nurse from UK, canada, USA, Ireland, EU countries, singapore or worked in the UK, Ireland or USA for at least 3 months full-time ANMAC can advise to give skilled visa to DIAC without assessment by AHPRA
I'm in Victoria... this doesn't seem to apply to me... I have way more than 4 patients to look after... and I never had only 4 patients to care for at any time.
Do you work in a public hospital ward, in a class 1 hospital? If you do contact the ANF. You are being used. If you work in ED its a different ratio.
Afternoon shift is 1:6 and night shift 1:8.
If its private hospital or aged care, may not apply.
Every person in Australia that calls themselves a Registered nurse must go through or have been registered by AHPRA, there is no way out whether the ANAMC say you are skilled or not, there is not way out. Nor will they give a nurse from another country skilled migration PR visa without being registered in Australia, happened to my cousin and her friend. They had to apply for student visa's do the bridging course (after being assessed by the then state nurses boards that no longer exist.) become registered with AHPRA then apply to AMNC for assessment for DIAC. The ANMC advises DIAC that the nurse has the qualifications to be skilled migrants, hence the need to be a registered nurse in Australia first. AHPRA does not have rights to advise DIAC on skilled migration, this can only be done by ANMC. This board is just more or less an advisory board to the DIAC, nothing to do with nurse registration.
This is from their website.
The ANMC skills assessment is for migration purposes only.
To register as a nurse in Australia please contact the
Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia on 1300 088 590
@ceridwyn and dingding..just to clarify your discussions in relation to ANMC and applying for permanent visa. The ANMC website lists down the requirements for the skill assessment required to get the "magic"paperwork that immigration will require to assess your skills points for permanent visa application. It looks easy as long as you have experience, but it is not as easy as that. I personally contacted ANMC a few times and had been told the same answer everytime to my dismay. My query is, can a nursing graduate from the philippines, and has passed the licensure exam there and has 2 years experience, be able to get the aprroval letter for skills assessment required by immigration. The answer everytime I ask, is that you will be required to undertake a competency program before the ANMC approves your skill assessment. This competency program is otherwise known as BP or the same as the Adelaide one. Years ago, for permanent visa application this was not required, hence it was much easier to apply then as PR. Other graduates of other courses have different assessing bodies and requirements and may not require to undertake any course, but this is not the case for Nurses now.
Although this could have changed recently, so don't quote me on this info. I just want to share what I learned from my phone calls with ANMC.
Thanks summer88, this is what the ANMC are still saying, unless you have been educated in selected the countries or have worked in the UK the education is not deemed the same and therefore will not be assessed by the ANMC until a bridging course is done. I also found on the website that if an international nurse obtains further education in Australia that they must be registered first before ANMC will assess. The bridging course can only be done after assessment by AHPRA.
Sep 04, 2010, 11:49 AM 
ceridwyn
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Victoria also is the only state with nurse patient ratios, thats why they are not paid quite as much. Believe me go work in another state and have 20 people to look after, compared to Victoria's 1:4 and see what you prefer.....money versus exhaustion. It is only 1-2 dollars and hour compare that to RN pay in home country.
Please understand I am not being picky, but to tell everyone they will get 38oo to 4500 a month is a bit misleading especially for a nurse with zero experience starting on low pay scale....and the tax is very high when not permanent resident, so this amount is not a 'clear' amount. This I take it is in a public hospital as well, the jobs are now becoming more available in aged care, where the money is much lower than that of a hospital, Can be as low as $20.00 and hour.
Also cannot be same wage scale across Australia in the public system as there are 7 different employers in state governments, I doubt that Victoria will give the biggest pay increase when they have patient ratios, just to make it up to Queensland pay, then they will want more so on and so on.