Hi guys, it feels like I am new here. I have been very busy with work, lovelife, and fatherhood.
I am so happy to see three fellows granted multiple entry visas. Congrats to reiken, drednag, and gemini star.
@salmonella, liaa, and mikyong
Part 11.1 of the AGOS, requires you to write your most recent qualification, assessments/examination. Since you passed the NCLEX RN exam, you would need to put that under 11.1 if that is the most recent. If you obtained a California RN license after passing the NCLEX, then that means you obtained a qualification to practice in California, and you would need a state verification of license sent to AHPRA. Your 11.1 should look like this:
Title of qualification: Registered Nurse
Name of Institution: California Board of Nursing
Country: USA
However, passing the NCLEX does not automatically qualify you to work as an RN in some states like California because the NCLEX is just one of the requirements to obtain a qualification/ license. Another stupid requirement is the social security number. If you don't have an SSN, then you will not be qualified in California yet and you cannot obtain a state verification of license. But since you passed the NCLEX you need to declare that and if I were in your case I would put under 11.1 this:
Title of qualification: NCLEX RN
Name of Institution: NCLEX/Cabon
Country USA
Comp date : date of exam
Length of Prog: examination
Then I would photocopy the letter from Cabon stating that I passed the NCLEX and I would have it certified as true copy and send it as attachment. I think that would be enough. If they would ask for a verification of license, that would be the time I will send a letter stating that I only passed the NCLEX but was not yet given a license because of SSN requirements hence, verification of license is not possible.
Anyway, you will most likely be assessed under category c, and you will be required to take the BP. So whether you put your being an NCLEX passer or not, would not really make a difference.
Unless you were licensed in the USA, and you worked as RN for at least 1 year fulltime equivalent, there is a chance that you will be assessed under category b and BP will no longer be required. There is no precedent yet with AHPRA but with the previous boards like QNC and NMBWA, if you were licensed in the the US and have the minimum required experience, BP is not required.
This also answers reiken's question re her sister. There is no precedent with AHPRA yet. But there is a chance BP will be waived, based on previous stateboard rules. If i were reiken's sis. I would gamble and send application to NMBWA. It will only cost me 220 AUD dollars to be assessed and there is a chance that I will be granted an OZ license right away and come October, when WA will be part of AHPRA, then the license will be valid anywhere in OZ.
If required to take the BP, the eligibility letter from NMBWA is good for three years, and it will be valid to take the BP anywhere in Oz when WA is officially part of AHPRA come October.
Cheers
Hello javRN! I am very glad that you are back! I have always admired your bright ideas in this thread. Just when mikyong, liaa and I needed an advice as to how to go about our application form with AHPRA, you arehere.:) I cannot thank you enough for sharing your thoughts with us. I might as well photocopy the letter coming from CABON and have it certified. I guess it's the wisest thing to do as of the moment.
mikyong, thanks for sharing! im trying to call AHPRA, but i just cant seem to get through, thanks for clarifying. im also having a hard time doing my CV :)
hi mikyong and liaa, i saw this on page 571, i followed it in accomplishing my cv. just like you guys i am also quite confused i do not know what to put in the "internship and observership" ( does this mean our rotation/ duties during our college years), "gaps in work practice", when do we note if we are "competent" or "observed" in the " clinical/ procedural sills".. could anyone share their ideas please. thanks a lot..:)
Hi mikyong and liaa, i saw this on page 571, I followed it in accomplishing my CV. Just like you guys i am also quite confused I do not know what to put in the "internship and observership" ( does this mean our rotation/ duties during our college years), "gaps in work practice", when do we note if we are "competent" or "observed" in the " Clinical/ Procedural Sills".. Could anyone share their ideas please. Thanks a lot..:)
good day salmonella. this is how i did my cv:
internship: yup, i included nursing rotations, specified the hospitals and attached a copy of my rle rotation report from my school.
observership: im not quite sure but i assumed this refers to training (i had a 6 months training in a hospital in manila after i got my license) or volunteer work (post registration then)
competent: nursing procedures that i am confident to do such as iv, catheter or ngt insertion, giving of meds, and the like.
observed: nursing procedures that i havent done yet but i have directly observed or procedures i have done with assistance or those i have done once or a few times (eg, drawing blood from a central line)
internship is equivalent to our rle rotations where we apply the nursing process (adopie) to persons, families, or communities under the supervision of a qualified clinical instructor
observership can also occur during our rle hours when we had the opportunity to observe competent nurses perform nursing skills. during observership we do not touch the patient. this is true during orientation to new wards, or facilities. it can also occur post-license period as when you are oriented for two weeks before work or before commencing a volunteer job. the defining factor really is that you do not touch the patient and do procedures.
you need to include these info in your cv under work/practice history. you can be very detailed about this or you may opt to summarize. the important thing is that you provide the dates, area of practice( whether it is acute care, medsurg, pedia, maternal, pscyh, community health etc..), brief description of the types of patients seen, and nursing skills involved. make sure you can submit appropriate documentation to support. If your school can provide you the rle clockhours/ breakdown of rle clock hours so much the better. If not, you ask your dean to give a certificate as to the veracity of the rle duties/ and areas.
post grad trainings, where you apply the nursing process and touch patients, include them under practice history; if your training does not include direct patient care, place it under observership.
under clinical and procedural skills, I suggest that you outline all the basic nursing skills in table form and indicate beside each skill whether you are competent or whether you have just observed those skills.
I dont know about your school, but in my uni we were required to be assessed as competent on a list of nursing skills. from assessing health,vital signs taking to asepsis, patient safety, hygiene, environmental care, bedmaking, cbg, collecting urine,stool specimen, medication administration,all the routes, skin integrity and wound care,perioperative skills, activity and exercise, pain management, nutrition, ngt,tube feedings, fecal elimination, enemas, urinary elimination, catherization care bladder irrigation, oxygenation, iv therapy etc.. to be assessed as competent, we must be able to show the clinical instructor that we have performed the skill independently and correctly at least three times and it has to be witnessed by the instructor. so we need at least 3 signatures beside each skill.
It took us a long time to accomplish because there were more than a hundred skills involved and there are limited opportunities for the performance of some skills, but the checklist complete with 3 signatures and the or/ dr cases are required for graduation. If you have the same checklist, you can use that as guide. or you may use this http://mcintranet.musc.edu/clined/PCTStudentTech/CON%20Nsg%20Skills%20Checklst%20MUSC.pdf
or you may make an outline of all the skills using your kozier as guide or taylor's clinical nursing skills.
In australia, you are also considered as competent in a skill if you know the rationale, theory, have determined the safety, patient benefit, and have performed correctly the skill under supervision of a competent nurse at least three times. It may seem overwhelming, but in Oz, you are not expected to be competent in ALL the nursing skills. I think no nurse will ever be. But you must at least be competent in all the basic nursing skills.
madugo talaga to prepare this cv. but it is not that hard.
Hi mikyong and liaa, i saw this on page 571, I followed it in accomplishing my CV. Just like you guys i am also quite confused I do not know what to put in the "internship and observership" ( does this mean our rotation/ duties during our college years), "gaps in work practice", when do we note if we are "competent" or "observed" in the " Clinical/ Procedural Sills".. Could anyone share their ideas please. Thanks a lot..:)
good day salmonella. this is how i did my cv:
internship: yup, i included nursing rotations, specified the hospitals and attached a copy of my rle rotation report from my school.
observership: im not quite sure but i assumed this refers to training (i had a 6 months training in a hospital in manila after i got my license) or volunteer work (post registration then)
competent: nursing procedures that i am confident to do such as iv, catheter or ngt insertion, giving of meds, and the like.
observed: nursing procedures that i havent done yet but i have directly observed or procedures i have done with assistance or tho:)se i have done once or a few times (eg, drawing blood from a central line)
i hope this helps you salmonella :)
Thanks a lot liaa! This CV is really a "nose bleed".:) Important informations were raised by javRN. Very clever guy!:)have you contacted ahpra? I want to ask them if they have already received my Cert. of Good standing which i have arranged when i applied to NBV...:)
internship is equivalent to our rle rotations where we apply the nursing process (adopie) to persons, families, or communities under the supervision of a qualified clinical instructor
observership can also occur during our rle hours when we had the opportunity to observe competent nurses perform nursing skills. during observership we do not touch the patient. this is true during orientation to new wards, or facilities. it can also occur post-license period as when you are oriented for two weeks before work or before commencing a volunteer job. the defining factor really is that you do not touch the patient and do procedures.
you need to include these info in your cv under work/practice history. you can be very detailed about this or you may opt to summarize. the important thing is that you provide the dates, area of practice( whether it is acute care, medsurg, pedia, maternal, pscyh, community health etc..), brief description of the types of patients seen, and nursing skills involved. make sure you can submit appropriate documentation to support. If your school can provide you the rle clockhours/ breakdown of rle clock hours so much the better. If not, you ask your dean to give a certificate as to the veracity of the rle duties/ and areas.
post grad trainings, where you apply the nursing process and touch patients, include them under practice history; if your training does not include direct patient care, place it under observership.
under clinical and procedural skills, I suggest that you outline all the basic nursing skills in table form and indicate beside each skill whether you are competent or whether you have just observed those skills.
I dont know about your school, but in my uni we were required to be assessed as competent on a list of nursing skills. from assessing health,vital signs taking to asepsis, patient safety, hygiene, environmental care, bedmaking, cbg, collecting urine,stool specimen, medication administration,all the routes, skin integrity and wound care,perioperative skills, activity and exercise, pain management, nutrition, ngt,tube feedings, fecal elimination, enemas, urinary elimination, catherization care bladder irrigation, oxygenation, iv therapy etc.. to be assessed as competent, we must be able to show the clinical instructor that we have performed the skill independently and correctly at least three times and it has to be witnessed by the instructor. so we need at least 3 signatures beside each skill.
It took us a long time to accomplish because there were more than a hundred skills involved and there are limited opportunities for the performance of some skills, but the checklist complete with 3 signatures and the or/ dr cases are required for graduation. If you have the same checklist, you can use that as guide. or you may use this http://mcintranet.musc.edu/clined/PCTStudentTech/CON%20Nsg%20Skills%20Checklst%20MUSC.pdf
or you may make an outline of all the skills using your kozier as guide or taylor's clinical nursing skills.
In australia, you are also considered as competent in a skill if you know the rationale, theory, have determined the safety, patient benefit, and have performed correctly the skill under supervision of a competent nurse at least three times. It may seem overwhelming, but in Oz, you are not expected to be competent in ALL the nursing skills. I think no nurse will ever be. But you must at least be competent in all the basic nursing skills.
madugo talaga to prepare this cv. but it is not that hard.
I think ill never stop thanking you javRN. :)How come you are so well versed with all this things? Well, I guess it really entails a lot of common sense with the terms included in the CV. But you know what, your insights have basis and that is what we actually needed. Perhaps because we do not want our documents returned again..Have you also made similar application in a Nursing Board in Australia before? Are you currently working in Australia as an RN?:)You are helping a lot of followers here...
liaa, you can refer to what sweet_toothRN has posted to contact them, thats the new number posted in AHPRA's site for overseas applicants.
Few weeks ago it was different for AHPRA Victoria, I have jot down the number before, and this is the number I still use to contact them. the number is-
(00) 61-387089001 i was able to get through this morning, even twice. you can try it. :)
javRN, you never cease to amaze me! cant help myself from pressing the kudos button in most of your posts haha
we need your valuable opinions and pieces of informations.... salamat sir! :)
To those who are thankful because my posts have helped them in one way or another, you are all welcome. The pleasure is mine. Really. I am always glad to be of help and will continue to do so if time permits. And thank you too for your kind words.
cant help myself from pressing the kudos button in most of your posts haha
salmonella
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Hello javRN! I am very glad that you are back! I have always admired your bright ideas in this thread.
Just when mikyong, liaa and I needed an advice as to how to go about our application form with AHPRA, you arehere.:) I cannot thank you enough for sharing your thoughts with us. I might as well photocopy the letter coming from CABON and have it certified. I guess it's the wisest thing to do as of the moment.
Again my sincerest gratitude:D