Never wanna take students again.

[remotefuse]

I totally get it now. As a student, I thought it would be great having students around, but after last week, I don't think I even wan to take students EVER!

Granted, I've been on the floor around 9 months, and shouldn't even take students, the students are assigned to individual pts and not the nurse.

I had a LPN in a LPN-RN program. Within 5 mins, she shares that she has been a nurse for 20 years and doesn't see the point of being here. She helped me do a dressing change on a pt with an stage 4 ulcer on the coccyx. While lifting her, I tell her not to pull on the bottom, but from the shoulders and knees, she scoffs and continues. I ask her to step away. Pt was on tube feeding and I had paused it before starting the dressing change, but I had also spiked a bag of antibiotics and wanted to be sure it was running before I continued and asked her to turn the pole towards me so I can be sure. She presses buttons on the feeding pump and IV pump and the tells me the feeding is off. Im in the middle of the dressing change and say, I need to see it (the iv pump and now feeding pump) and asks again for her to turn the pole and she insists that it is off. I stop in the middle of my dressing change and go to look at the pump. Take her aside and tell her not to come back in my pts room.

This isn't the first time have worked with students like this. I once had a guy nurse that just knew EVERYTHING there was to know about nursing. It was painful talking to him.

I just can't believe how obnoxious some of these students are. I totally get why so many nurses can't stand taking students. We do have awesome students every now and then, but it seems most of them take up space and talk all day.

Rant over.

[roser13, ASN, RN]

As a LTC unit manager, The residents and the team enjoyed all students - HCAs, LPNs, RNs, OTs, Pts,..... The residents got extra care. Please do not judge all students because of your negative experience with a few. We need to support the new generation of nurses, as we were supported.

I was supported & taught by my on-site omnipresent clinical instructor. It was unheard of for nursing students to rely in any way, shape or form on the unit nurse, except when he/she requested something of us. If there was a foley to be placed, the CI monitored/observed/taught, not the floor nurse.

I do believe also that LTC is a completely different animal from an acute care floor when it comes to having students. A relatively stable, long-term set of patients is vastly different from the rapid turnover on an acute care floor.

[DawnBebb]

I was once told by an instructor that nursing is the only profession where we eat our own young. That statement is very true. Although training someone can be very frustrating, please remember you didn't spring from nursing school knowing everything either. You were a student once, and someone took the time to teach you although they were busy and probably annoyed with you as well. Nursing is a very cut throat, judgemental profession. I don't know why everyone is so miserable, but it's very disheartening to be a student, eager to learn and be helpful and not get in the way; and the person chosen to instruct you treats you like a smudge on the bottom of their shoe. I understand some students are ignorant as well, but not everyone is. Report the student to their instructor and move on. And yes, I have been both the student and the instructor, and I still remember what is like.

[SmilingBluEyes]

*sigh*

We eat our young. We eat our old. Nurses sure are tasty with A-1 Sauce, I hear......

anywho....

I don't get why when we point out entitlement or poor behavior on a student's part that is any form of nurse eating. It's actually an attempt to help someone from failure. If you (as a student) want to be welcomed, there are more than enough posts here that guide you to succeed.

There are enough threads on "nursing eating". Let's not segue into that here.

[Erikaryns]

I've been an LPN for almost 2 yrs now, I'm currently in an LPN-RN program and I do feel that as students were in the way of the "real" RNs and all the work they have to do.

[NurseStorm, BSN, RN]

I was a little worried I may get a nurse that was irritated by the additional work of having a student (which I understand may still happen), but it's nice to hear your perspective with the pediatric patient. It's stressful for you, and although you meant nothing personal to the students, it was a surprise because she didn't ask. I can understand that. This can help me try and look at things from a different perspective and not be quick to take it personally.

All of your detailed information is so incredibly helpful. I will use it, and I sincerely thank you. :)

You're very welcome! I hope this helps you (and other students). I'm glad it helps you see things from another perspective :) You seem very open and receptive and these are traits of a successful student :yes:Someone so willing to try and understand the perspective of the nurses and do their best to make it a good experience for everyone is the type of student I like to get!

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

I was once told by an instructor that nursing is the only profession where we eat our own young. That statement is very true. Although training someone can be very frustrating, please remember you didn't spring from nursing school knowing everything either. You were a student once, and someone took the time to teach you although they were busy and probably annoyed with you as well. Nursing is a very cut throat, judgemental profession. I don't know why everyone is so miserable, but it's very disheartening to be a student, eager to learn and be helpful and not get in the way; and the person chosen to instruct you treats you like a smudge on the bottom of their shoe. I understand some students are ignorant as well, but not everyone is. Report the student to their instructor and move on. And yes, I have been both the student and the instructor, and I still remember what is like.

The phrase "nurses eat their young" made someone a boatload of money, but that does not make it true. And frankly, it's getting to be a tired old excuse for just about any attempt on the part of an experienced nurse to correct ignorant behavior on the part of a newbie.

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

I was once told by an instructor that nursing is the only profession where we eat our own young. That statement is very true.

Really? No, it's not. Yes, there is bullying in nursing. No, it's not all nurses. No, nursing is not the only profession where bullying exists.

But it's not just the term NETY that is wrong with the picture (and the sooner it dies off the better). It's that some nurses are quick to label anything and everything they don't agree with as NETY. Sometimes, it's just constructive criticism that someone doesn't want to hear even if it needs to be said.

And it's not just experienced nurses who are guilty- newer nurses and even non-nursing members of the team are guilty as well.

[NotAllThoseWhoWander]

Yikes! I'm really sorry that you had a bad experience. But please, if I ever end up being your student, don't take a biased approach towards me.

[bag003, BSN]

I personally feel like you overreacted with this entire situation. I hope you remember that you were a student too once (a little more than 9months ago!). Instead of kicking out this student, you could have used this opportunity to educated them on why you want to lift them at the shoulders, or why you wanted the IV running, etc.

Also, what is wrong with a student ("male") nurse that KNOWS everything? I feel like that would show competence. I think you just have a personal vendetta with all students, so you are correct when stating you should NEVER take another student again.

[airborneinf82, BSN]

Pausing tube feedings is one of the stupidest things that nurses do religiously... nothing like saving a patient from potentially aspirating on 4.8cc's of additional TF.

[Lev, MSN, RN, NP]

Pausing tube feedings is one of the stupidest things that nurses do religiously... nothing like saving a patient from potentially aspirating on 4.8cc's of additional TF.

4.8 ccs is enough to cause aspiration pneumonia and kill someone.

[NurseStorm, BSN, RN]

Also, what is wrong with a student ("male") nurse that KNOWS everything? I feel like that would show competence. I think you just have a personal vendetta with all students, so you are correct when stating you should NEVER take another student again.

The problem is they DON'T know everything. No one does. If a student (or nurse) thinks they know everything THEY ARE DANGEROUS. Plain and simple. Nothing more dangerous than someone who doesn't know what they don't know, and don't know when to ask for help.