need advice from rns that became pas or nps

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We know np program is intense but not as intense as pa school do you think the dnp program will change this?

im not a troll and im serious. I WILL get that doctorate degree in nursing. and I WILL use the title Dr. after specifying that i am an NP

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Specializes in Emergency, Cardiac, PAT/SPU, Urgent Care.
Wanted a quick clarification here. You say that NPs are trained more as specialists but from a quick glance at several PA curricula, it looks like PAs receive more training (more clinical hours) in a particular specialty than an NP who is a specialist. That's in addition to the generalist training they get in several other specialties also. Furthermore, with regards to prereq science courses, a significant number of schools offer easier classes for nursing students. I know for a fact that nursing students took the intro versions to chemistry, physics, etc at my undergrad. Those classes were reserved for nurses and even non-majors weren't allowed to take those classes to fulfill requirements. .

With all due respect, according to the PA curriculum I am looking at, the typical clinical hours required in peds is a 5-week clinical rotation (assuming this would equate to about 200 hrs total - 40 hrs/wk x 5 weeks) for a PA student. Please enlighten me as to how that would even possibly be more clinical time than what a PNP has to accumulate during their entire program?

Also, the type of sciences taken does absolutely depend on which school one attends/attended. For example, I took Gen. Chem I&II (level 200 courses) which were in fact, the same exact classes that the pre-med, chem/bio majors took. If you look at the #1 PA program's chem requirement - they take Chem 101 which is "Chemical Principles" as opposed to "Gen. Chem" which is the next level at that particular school. So even with PA programs, it does vary by school. When I was in nursing school as an undergrad, there was definitely that "weeding out" factor which was done by having the nursing majors take those science courses with the science majors. It may be different now - I have no idea - but those "watered down" courses were not what I took as an undergrad. over 15 years ago.

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Specializes in Emergency, Cardiac, PAT/SPU, Urgent Care.

Ha. I'm always open to a good debate. It doesn't really matter to me though since I don't have any intention of becoming either, lol.

Then why respond to a question that was posed to those who are already PAs or NPs?

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Then why respond to a question that was posed to those who are already PAs or NPs?

Because I've got too much free time. :)

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Specializes in SICU, MICU, Med/Surg, ER, Private Duty.
In a (hopefully growing) number of states you are not allowed to do that because it's against the law to present yourself as a Doctor if you are not, in fact, a real medical doctor.

But, if you are in one of those states where the hospital janitor with a PhD in creative writing can introduce himself as "Dr.______, Janitor", and you choose to introduce yourself as "Dr._______, NP", then you can be assured that the snickering that you hear from every one of the staff members as you leave the room will, indeed, be directed at you.:jester:

If you want to be called "Doctor" in a medical setting, then go to medical school.

BTW: I'm not NP (or DNP) bashing here.

that's kinda of insulting... well if a janitor with a PhD in creative writing, is definately considered DR __ because he EARNED through schooling.. as a mater of fact, he wouldn't be called a janitor anymore, because it has nothing to do do with his PhD degree.....'

A doctorate is a degree! and rightfully someone with a Doctorate degree should be address as Dr, so and so!

people keep forgeting that Doctor, is a degree level... a Physician, has a Doctorate in Medicine... there are pple with doctorate degree in theology, geology, etc..

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Education is one thing its misleading. Healthcare is another story. If you can do mosy of what a doctor can i dont see the problem in addressing your self as Dr so and so , NP

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Education is one thing its misleading. Healthcare is another story. If you can do mosy of what a doctor can i dont see the problem in addressing your self as Dr so and so , NP

Based on that...Lets just go with 'Mostly Dr. ______, NP'

Seriously man, its about what you can do in the moment, not about your title.

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With a doctorate in nursing you can treat sick patients back to good health with a doctorate degree in writing you can write good novals and

Become the next jk rowling. If you have a doctorate in the field you are in and your field is in healthcare then by all means use the title dr. You are a doctor in the nursing field. Physicians are doctors in the medical field. As long as you stay in your lane i dont see any problem

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

Ya know?

This back and forth about NP's calling themselves Doctor because they have the DNP is just off-topic of this thread.

If you are going to carry on this type of a discussion, make a new thread on the DNP or make a new thread on NP calling themselves Doctor.

So, stay on topic because all other posts will be deleted. Thanks.

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.
oh i already got the information i needed on the first page .i just like reading peoples post. i like using all their experience and using it to my own benefit. If you want you can close this thread, but i still like reading other peoples opinion

Since you have the info you need, we will just close this thread.

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