Published Aug 14, 2010
JonB04
467 Posts
We know np program is intense but not as intense as pa school do you think the dnp program will change this?
iPink, BSN, RN
1,414 Posts
If you want to hear from RNs that became NPs, then you need to post this under the "Specialty" tab, not in the Pre-nursing forum. Very few NPs post in here; their hang out spot is usually in the Nurse Practitioner forum or other Nursing forums.
Thank you
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,268 Posts
I'll be glad to move this to the NP forum.
ImThatGuy, BSN, RN
2,139 Posts
I can't help but think that PA school would be more difficult. I'd rather be a PA than anything else, but I'm not moving so that cuts that out. Our e-pals over on the physician assistant forum often talk about PA school as "drinking from a fire hose," plus it's more grounded in biology in chemistry so it's bound to be more detailed in general.
Ill be an NP even with the dnp course its still not as jntense as paschool no offense. And ill get a doctorate degree and my name Dr._____, NP
SORRY i meant my name will be Dr._____, NP
Yeah, throw that DNP out there for all to see. *eye roll*
haha whats wrong you hate the new movement from msn to dnp?
Boatswain2PA
26 Posts
In a (hopefully growing) number of states you are not allowed to do that because it's against the law to present yourself as a Doctor if you are not, in fact, a real medical doctor.
But, if you are in one of those states where the hospital janitor with a PhD in creative writing can introduce himself as "Dr.______, Janitor", and you choose to introduce yourself as "Dr._______, NP", then you can be assured that the snickering that you hear from every one of the staff members as you leave the room will, indeed, be directed at you.
If you want to be called "Doctor" in a medical setting, then go to medical school.
BTW: I'm not NP (or DNP) bashing here.
Let me qualify this by saying that I'm starting the nursing department component of a BSN in a couple of weeks (a second B.S. for me) so that should indicate I'm not anti-nursing. That said, I am anti-DNP. What curricula I've looked at seemed to revolve mostly around courses in research, theory, leadership, and policy. That's not going to do squat to improve clinical outcomes on anybody at the provider level in my unbiased opinion.
I think a midlevel provider would have a midlevel degree, i.e. a master's. That seems reasonable to me. An higher level provider in this realm would be the MD/DO with the approrpriate curricula and post-graduate training. I think even the master's level NP programs could use more science-based training and clinical hours. There are two doctoral level programs that I'm aware of for PAs. I believe one is associated with a residency. I think that's equally stupid although their master's level curricula are better, I think.
To concisely answer the question, yes, I do hate the movement.
Haha i know about those 7 states that prohibit it. I live in NY i i highly doubt NY and california will prohibit the use of Dr. In their state.nurses will just argue that they were given doctorate drgrees and are in healthcare like dentist ans pharmacist. The janitor joke was funny and i dont think its good for someone not in healthcare to use the title doctor