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need advice for Nursing school

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so I graduated BSN from other country way back 2008 and applied last may 2014 for NCLEX- RN here in LA California. Unfortunately, I'm not qualified to take the exam. :(

they advised me to complete an approved registered nursing program and to find approved programs in my area. but the question is, is it okay to complete the program in a community college or I really have to go to universities?

please advise... I feel hopeless with this career! :(

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

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Were you not given the option of correcting your educational deficiencies by taking and/or repeating certain nursing courses?

Hi The Commuter! thanks for your reply.. actually the only suggestion they gave me is to find approved programs in my area and speak to Nursing Director. and it'll be the decision of the Nursing director if I can be given credits from my previous education, so right now I dunno if I should really go to a University or CC would be acceptable.

Hi The Commuter! thanks for your reply.. actually the only suggestion they gave me is to find approved programs in my area and speak to Nursing Director. and it'll be the decision of the Nursing director if I can be given credits from my previous education, so right now I dunno if I should really go to a University or CC would be acceptable.

It really doesn't make a difference whether it's a university or community college or a private college/school or a for-profit college, what really matters is:

(a). must be CA BRN approved (refer to the list of them from the CA BRN website).

(b). must complete the actual course to the end and receive the transcripts or certificate

©. if taken out-of-state, it must meet CA BRN regs but also should get written approval from the CA BRN you're allowed to do so.

It also depends on what you can readily afford to pay for any of these approved schools with all of them requiring the tuition cost be paid up-front.

Given the very limited open slots available to those needing to just take the deficiencies, one can not be choosy as to where to go if you're offered the chance to take it.

There's well over several thousands needing to re-take courses and it's from several countries and not at all, limited to just 1-2, as we read of those in the classes, your classmates are from the UK, India, Russia, Phillipines, China, Canada and several European countries.

With the average class ranging from 12-30, you can understand why the waiting list can exceed passed the 1-2-3 years to get enrolled.

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If however, the CA BRN says that you may be missing more than two courses and need to complete 3-4 or more, then, the advice of re-taking an approved registered nursing program, that may be "quicker" as getting into just the needed 3-4 courses may take longer but that's not necessarily the case since getting into any approved nursing program in CA is just as tough and very competitive to get into.

But it's worth looking into that option, again, it depends on how many courses do you need to re-take as determined from your declined letter or if not specific enough, it's up to you to contact your evaluator and simply ask.

hi steppy, you know youre right..i just got confused to what I heard from some, like BSN degree course should be approved only from Universities and Community college is for associate degrees.. correct me If I'm wrong. does it mean CC also have an approved nursing program??

I tried contacting the evaluator but I never get a response.. :(

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

does it mean CC also have an approved nursing program??
The majority of California CCs offer state-approved associate of science degree programs in nursing. If you complete the program you're eligible to take the NCLEX-RN and attain RN licensure in the state of California. However, you'd need to be accepted to the nursing program since more people apply than can be accommodated.

hi steppy, you know youre right..i just got confused to what I heard from some, like BSN degree course should be approved only from Universities and Community college is for associate degrees.. correct me If I'm wrong. does it mean CC also have an approved nursing program??

I tried contacting the evaluator but I never get a response.. :(

Short answer: yes!

Look at the CA BRN approved schools and college listing for both ADN and BSN degrees, make direct contact with the ones you can attend to and if those are several hundreds miles away, then, that's up to you to further pursue your career path.

Both types of schools/colleges offers the needed classes BUT many have certain limitations such as they don't offer the deficient courses and you'll need to enroll in the entire nursing program (start from the beginning), others have their limited openings if space is available, others don't offer any deficiency or any sort of re-takes.

The time clock has started in your case, May 2014, so the CA BRN gives everyone up to 3 years from their application date to complete the minimum requirements (in your case by May 2017) or else, the application will be considered "abandoned", meaning you not only lose the application fees but will need to re-start the entire application process all over again with brand new non-refundable fees and the new request for your sealed school transcripts (make sure you know how long your school will keep the files on hand) etc AND meet any new rules and regulations in 2017.

As of this point, CA BRN is not extending any files to be soon abandoned, I'm sure if they did, it would overwhelm their limited staffing and much easier to have them review a new file than to pick up after so many years on where it was at.

As you can read of others (in the several of thousands) who were denied in 2011 and 2012 are still struggling to find the ever elusive courses and many will have to re-do their whole application all over and re-start the 3 year clock. Those 3 years are like yesterday and I'm guessing the majority of them are still on a waiting list or still to get on any list.

Again, don't forget you can't just be enrolled, you must have actually finished the courses and get that official document from the school to submit back to the CA BRN, so then you'll need to re-count the months prior to your expiration date/month as to allow time to complete the classes and hopefully pass.

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yes, they stated in the letter that I have to re-apply again if ever I finished the entire course missing. So dumb and I feel kinda hopeless like wasted 4 years of nursing in other country and cant even take that path after I graduated. :( I didn't know that its hard to get into schools here in California.. if ever I take LVN, and became LVN and wanted to be an RN, I still need to complete the missing course right?

You will not have to complete the missing courses again upon getting the LVN license, as you'll now have to complete the LVN-RN program.

But just know that getting into these programs are just as difficult to get into, many now requiring 1 year minimum working experience and passage of pre-qualification exams (English and math) to be put on a list or to be enrolled.

CA BRN is merely enforcing decades old rules and regulations, the same exact items that any and all CA students and nurses must comply with as well as any other out of state applicant must qualify for.

They are not discriminating any one group or country.

It's been the fault of many of the countries own nursing boards and policies, whereby they don't care nor need to care about the CA BRN policies or any other state, since they are more concern within their own countries needs and wants, which is their right to run the show the way they want. Once one passes their own country's borders, one now must meet the requirements of the USA.

USA, who are they?

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yes i agree! especially my country who loves forgery :no: And people who wants to be a nurse in CA should deal with the regulations of CA BRN. i wonder if nursing schools online would be acceptable? it seems like it'll take more years before i can enter school. :arghh:

But just know that getting into these programs are just as difficult to get into, many now requiring 1 year minimum working experience and passage of pre-qualification exams (English and math) to be put on a list or to be enrolled.

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what if you don't have any experience? does it mean you cannot be put on the list? :(

JustBeachyNurse, RN

Specializes in Complex pediatrics turned LTC/subacute geriatrics. Has 11 years experience.

CA BRN accepts no online schools for initial licensing.

REALLY? how come some online schools offers bsn?! :barf02: thanks for answering. :)

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

REALLY? how come some online schools offers bsn?! :barf02: thanks for answering. :)
Online schools offer the RN-to-BSN completion programs for those of us who are already RNs with either diplomas or associate degrees.

JustBeachyNurse, RN

Specializes in Complex pediatrics turned LTC/subacute geriatrics. Has 11 years experience.

Online schools offer the RN-to-BSN completion programs for those of us who are already RNs with either diplomas or associate degrees.

Exactly. The entry to practice online or distance programs such as Excelsior or Indiana State are not accepted by CABRN. Programs for currently licensed RNs to upgrade their diploma or ASN to a BSN online such as WGU or UTA are accepted as the student already completed the entry to practice educational criteria with a diploma or ASN.

RN_stucky621

Specializes in non-animals.

seems like you're going to have to enter a nursing program here in the USA to ever become an RN in the US

seems like you're going to have to enter a nursing program here in the USA to ever become an RN in the US

yes I am.. but im losing hope for this career.. :scrying:

hi justmeeh _ayz, can I know which country you come from?

Anyways, don't lose hope, you never know what tomorrow will bring, good luck :) !