Nearly $5 million will go to train new Arizona nurses

Multicollinearity, BSN, RN · Jul 18, 2012

The hospitals in Phoenix have no one to blame but themselves for their nursing shortage. As Banner placed on their
nurse employment site. New Grads need not apply. As older well experienced nurses at the high end of the salary range
can't get jobs either and if they are working get harrassed beyond belief and eventually quit. As the stress builds on units
it is a well known fact by older high paid nurses their nurse managers will lie about these nurses to get them off their
budget and save their own butts. Nurses need to speak up. Remember, nurses don't need the hospitals. The hospitals need
the nurses otherwise they can't function. Nursing is viewed by the hospitals as an "expense" and not a n asset. Nurses need
a union in Arizona and they need to speak up for the profession. Arizona nurses also need a forum where they can talk
about these subjects without retallation. So let Arizona spend 5 million on training new nurses. The rest of the country
can really benefit from this. All I have to say is remember health care is big business with CEOS making hundreds of
thousands a year in salaries if not sometimes millions. ARIZONA NURSES UNIONIZE UNIONIZE UNIONIZE

In nursing school I recall a nursing instructor telling me that the ideal nurse for an AZ hospital has 2 years of experience. Not a new grad, so the hospital doesn't have to invest time and money in training. Not a really experienced nurse because they'll be higher on a pay-scale and stretch the budget. And those really experienced nurses...they have enough experience to call BS when they see it. Really experienced nurses are a force to be reckoned with that weak managers don't want to deal with.

As far as AZ investing in producing new grad RNs - I've seen many new grads leaving for New Mexico and Texas. Why are Arizonans paying to fund AZ nursing programs that feed new nurses into New Mexico and Texas? I had to leave myself, 2 years ago. That the "nursing shortage" mantra is still echoed just shows whose vested interests are being protected - and it's not the nurses or taxpayers.

allnurses Guide · Jul 18, 2012

Most of the articles you see in business publications like Bloomberg are based on studies done by David Auerbach, Douglas Staiger, and Peter Buerhaus. They work hand in glove with the AACN and the ANA. I'd suggest people look at their history of accurately predicting what occurs in the nursing employment market before deciding whether they should be treated as though their statements are as truth delivered from on high.