ND: revising titles for Advanced Degree Nurses?

[NDManal]

why medical students have the title Medical Doctor (MD), but when a nurse get her doctorate degree they wont give her a title Nursing Doctor (ND). I think its a smart idea that a nurse would be allowed to get this title, so all nurses can struggle to continue nursing education to get this title. I already choose this title for myself to encourage me to get the Doctorate in nursing someday when I finish my master.

I would like to say that titles in nursing should be change as:

NP, should be for a nurse who got her bachelor degree.

N.M.S, for a nurse who got her master degree.

and ND, for a nurse who got her Doctorate degree.

I hope many nurses agree with me, so we can reach this forum to who responsible to change titles. We are nurses in fact are not enough respected in society or some physicians. In fact, ppl respect others by their titles.

sorry for my broken English. Its not my first language.

Sincerely,

N.M.S. Manal currently

N.D, Manal in future :)

[JustBeachyNurse, LPN]

There are several doctoral levels in nursing education---DNP (doctorate nurse practitioner), PhD (generally research based nursing doctoral degree). NP implies nurse practitioner is a masters or doctoral level education advanced practice nurse.

ND is a natruopathic doctor and has nothing to do with allopathic medicine or nursing whatsoever.

NP is sometimes used interchangeable with APN, as in nurse practitioner or advanced practice nurse. RN is registered nurse, the basic level of licensure that can be earned once you graduate from a diploma, associates or bachelors (or entry level masters) degree program.

MSN is a degree granted to masters prepared nurse. It may or may not be clinical (CNS or APN) in origin. There are also MSN in nursing education or nursing informatics.

[dianah, ASN]

Moved to General Nursing Discussion forum.

[chare]

There are several doctoral levels in nursing education---DNP (doctorate nurse practitioner), PhD (generally research based nursing doctoral degree). NP implies nurse practitioner is a masters or doctoral level education advanced practice nurse.

The DNP is actually the Doctor of Nursing Practice. While many believe that the DNP is a clinical degree this is not the case, rather it is a practice degree. As such, the DNP can be awarded in areas such as nursing administration and leadership.

ND is a natruopathic doctor and has nothing to do with allopathic medicine or nursing whatsoever.

The ND was an early practice degree awarded in nursing. Case Western Reserve was one university that awarded this degree. After implementing the DNP Case Western provided an ND to DNP Conversion.

There was a previous thread on allnurses discussing this.

[klone, MSN, RN]

University of Colorado also offered an ND degree for a short period, then converted it to the DNP about 5 or 6 years ago.

I'm confused by this statement in the OP:

NP, should be for a nurse who got her bachelor degree

Why would NP be for a Bachelor's in nursing? And, we do already have a BSN, MSN, DNP. Which designates bachelor's, master's and doctorate, respectively.

One final thought - it's against terms of service to use credentials in your username that you have not yet earned.

[mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN]

I have a friend finishing her DNP and she is NOT advanced practice. She will be finance or admin. There is a different path for an advanced practice DNP. That I find confusing. I have other colleagues that are getting ANP where they have a ton of clinical hours to become advanced practice nurses. The DNP friend is almost a Ph.D. in what she describes what she is doing: no clinical, some research-but not a thesis that she would defend for her doctorate. It is like the DPT. physical therapist with doctorates are not medical doctors and they don't defend a thesis (same with Pharm.D) very odd to me.

[klone, MSN, RN]

I have a friend finishing her DNP and she is NOT advanced practice. She will be finance or admin. There is a different path for an advanced practice DNP. That I find confusing. I have other colleagues that are getting ANP where they have a ton of clinical hours to become advanced practice nurses. The DNP friend is almost a Ph.D. in what she describes what she is doing: no clinical, some research-but not a thesis that she would defend for her doctorate. It is like the DPT. physical therapist with doctorates are not medical doctors and they don't defend a thesis (same with Pharm.D) very odd to me.

Regardless of what type of DNP you get (whether it confers advance-practice nurse status, or if it's a "non-clinical" DNP such as leadership), by virtue of it being a DNP program, it requires 1000 clinical hours.

I can't link from this archaic computer I'm on right now, but if you google "frequently asked questions about dnp programs and ccne accreditation" it will bring up the document that outlines the requirements of all DNP programs.