As a long time nurse and educator I want to be sure that the touch is handed over to the next generation with the same wish it was handed to me. I was graced with loving mentors who never failed to help me become the best nurse I could be...so to my beloved students. Here is what I share.
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There are many of us here who love helping you. We ask that you show us your work. Show us that you have your critical thinking caps on and are trying to grasp this new way of thinking.
Tell us what you think and we will go out of our way to help you. Saying that we will not do your homework is not being mean. Our job is to help you become the best nurse that you can be. We want you to have the AhHa moment where it suddenly clicks and makes sense.
Care plans really aren't that hard with the right resources and assessment about what your patient needs. Many nursing students over this this process and become over whelmed. Think about your care plan as a recipe card for how to care for the patient step by step.
So, when you ask about a care plan...tell us about your patient. What did you see? What did they say? What does your brain tell you that they need.
Let the patient/patient assessment drive your diagnosis. Do not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first.
So......back to square one.....What is your assessment? What are the vital signs? What is your patient saying? Is the the patient having pain? Are they having difficulty with ADLS? What teaching do they need? What does the patient need? What is the most important to them now? What is important for them to know in the future. TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PATIENT...:)
The medical diagnosis is the disease itself. It is what the patient has not necessarily what the patient needs. the nursing diagnosis is what are you going to do about it, what are you going to look for, and what do you need to do/look for first. From what you posted I do not have the information necessary to make a nursing diagnosis.
Care plans when you are in school are teaching you what you need to do to actually look for, what you need to do to intervene and improve for the patient to be well and return to their previous level of life or to make them the best you you can be. It is trying to teach you how to think like a nurse.
Think of the care plan as a recipe to caring for your patient. your plan of how you are going to care for them. how you are going to care for them. what you want to happen as a result of your caring for them. What would you like to see for them in the future, even if that goal is that you don't want them to become worse, maintain the same, or even to have a peaceful pain free death.
Every single nursing diagnosis has its own set of symptoms, or defining characteristics. they are listed in the NANDA taxonomy and in many of the current nursing care plan books that are currently on the market that include nursing diagnosis information. You need to have access to these books when you are working on care plans. You need to use the nursing diagnoses that NANDA has defined and given related factors and defining characteristics for. These books have what you need to get this information to help you in writing care plans so you diagnose your patients correctly.
Don't focus your efforts on the nursing diagnoses when you should be focusing on the assessment and the patients abnormal data that you collected. These will become their symptoms, or what NANDA calls defining characteristics.
From a very wise AN contributor Daytonite.......make sure you follow these steps first and in order and let the patient drive your diagnosis not try to fit the patient to the diagnosis you found first.
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- Assessment (collect data from medical record, do a physical assessment of the patient, assess ADL'S, look up information about your patient's medical diseases/conditions to learn about the signs and symptoms and pathophysiology)
- Determination of the patient's problem(s)/nursing diagnosis (make a list of the abnormal assessment data, match your abnormal assessment data to likely nursing diagnoses, decide on the nursing diagnoses to use)
- Planning (write measurable goals/outcomes and nursing interventions)
- Implementation (initiate the care plan)
- Evaluation (determine if goals/outcomes have been met)
The foundation of any care plan is the signs, symptoms or responses that patient is having to what is happening to them. What is happening to them could be the medical disease, a physical condition, a failure to perform ADLS (activities of daily living), or a failure to be able to interact appropriately or successfully within their environment. Therefore, one of your primary goals as a problem solver is to collect as much data as you can get your hands on. The more the better. You have to be the detective and always be on the alert and lookout for clues, at all times, and that is Step #1 of the nursing process.
Assessment is an important skill. It will take you a long time to become proficient in assessing patients. Assessment not only includes doing the traditional head-to-toe exam, but also listening to what patients have to say and questioning them. History can reveal import clues. It takes time and experience to know what questions to ask to elicit good answers (interview skills). Part of this assessment process is knowing the pathophysiology of the medical disease or condition that the patient has. But, there will be times that this won't be known. Just keep in mind that you have to be like a nurse detective always snooping around and looking for those clues.
The meat of this care plan of yours will lie in the abnormal data (symptoms) that you collected during your assessment of this patient......in order for you to pick any nursing diagnoses for a patient you need to know what the patient's symptoms are. Although your patient isn't real you do have information available.
What I would suggest you do is to work the nursing process from step #1. Take a look at the information you collected on the patient during your physical assessment and review of their medical record. Start making a list of abnormal data which will now become a list of their symptoms. Don't forget to include an assessment of their ability to perform ADLS (because that's what we nurses shine at).
The ADLS are bathing, dressing, transferring from bed or chair, walking, eating, toilet use, and grooming. and, one more thing you should do is to look up information about symptoms that stand out to you. What is the physiology and what are the signs and symptoms (manifestations) you are likely to see in the patient. did you miss any of the signs and symptoms in the patient? if so, now is the time to add them to your list.
This is all part of preparing to move onto step #2 of the process which is determining your patient's problem and choosing nursing diagnoses. but, you have to have those signs, symptoms and patient responses to back it all up.
What you are calling a nursing diagnosis is actually a shorthand label for the patient problem.. The patient problem is more accurately described in the definition of the nursing diagnosis.
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Thank you Esme12! I'm in my second semester, med-surg, accelerated bachelor's program and you break it down in such a manageable way. In my next clinical rotation my preceptor wants me to take a full report/hand-off and plan the day for a patient. I'm taking your instruction to heart, it's what the patient needs RT the medical diagnosis, PMH and the plan for the day and the stay.
The only issue that I struggle with, in regards to nursing care plans, is that I'm not (or rarely) the one who provides the intervention or education, my preceptor does that. So I feel as if I can deduce a diagnosis and appropriate interventions, but I'm not qualified or licensed to implement and evaluate. This is where I struggle in my NCPs.
Either way, thank you for your post.
davewayne said:Thank you Esme12! I'm in my second semester, med-surg, accelerated bachelor's program and you break it down in such a manageable way. In my next clinical rotation my preceptor wants me to take a full report/hand-off and plan the day for a patient. I'm taking your instruction to heart, it's what the patient needs RT the medical diagnosis, PMH and the plan for the day and the stay.The only issue that I struggle with, in regards to nursing care plans, is that I'm not (or rarely) the one who provides the intervention or education, my preceptor does that. So I feel as if I can deduce a diagnosis and appropriate interventions, but I'm not qualified or licensed to implement and evaluate. This is where I struggle in my NCPs.
Either way, thank you for your post.
Sure some of your care plan you can't "initiate" in reality. Care plans as a student are teaching you how to think like a nurse. We need to look at all possibilities in caring for a patient. Nurses do a lot of lateral thinking and have a knowledge of what could possibly happen...the worst case scenario....and what you should look for and do if that happens.
I precept on a med-surg floor that first-year students rotate through for clinical. I remember them exclaiming,"Wow! Nursing is so easy, I'm basically done for the day after I give meds at 1400!" I tried to explain that there were tons of important things that could be done, like reassessing the patient, doing patient teaching, walking with patients, SO many other things, etc. but they just seemed very puzzled and asked, "Okay but... is there nursing care that needs to be done??" I think a key mantra for a new nursing student is to try to be less task-oriented (which I know can be very hard starting out), and think more about the bigger picture of your patients!
Learning how to plan nursing care ... doesn't that sound different from "writing a care plan"?
You are in school to learn how to think like a nurse so you can plan nursing care for people who need it. Like any other new field, it takes time to master. Nobody would expect a new Chemistry grad to be able to run a research chem lab; nobody expects a new nursing grad to be completely independent in planning nursing care for sick people. But both of them had better have a really good idea about basic safety, prior practice in the common tasks used in their work areas, general understanding of principles, and a clear idea of how to ask for help and continue to learn. That's the point here.
Esme - where do you teach?? Cuz' I'm moving to your school. :)
Seriously, thank you very much for sharing your expertise! I hope and pray that my teachers share your enthusiasm and desire for their students to succeed. If teachers "did our homework" for us, we'd never learn. Then we'd be turned loose on our patients one day to flounder. I'm a more mature student (36, 2nd career) and am a bit nervous - I think all students should be a bit nervous. Your post helped settle those nerves. Thank you!!
A word of caution....nurses are not always compassionate to each other. Nurses work in a stressful environment. We have many tasks and very little time. We are responsible for everything...but we actually have very little control. This leads to frustration and fatigue.
If the patients lunch doesn't arrive in time...it's your fault.
If lab has to re-draw because the tube clotted...it's your fault.
If the CT scanner breaks...it's your fault.
If the MD hasn't made rounds your....it's your fault.
If the patient isn't happy because their room is hot/cold......its your fault.
If the family calls and you took too long to get to the phone...its your fault.
If you can't get out on time after 4 discharges, 3 admits, one post op and 2 codes (one to heaven and one to ICU), then ask the ED to hold the last admit because you are overwhelmed AND it's 1740...it's your fault.
So....nurses aren't always compassionate with their co-workers and they don't always have time to have inspiring speeches with the students or new grad. Here is my favorite poem by Melodie Chenevert RN,BSN,MN.
QuoteBeing A Nurse Means…
You will never be bored.
You will always be frustrated.
You will be surrounded by challenges,
So much to do and so little time.
You will carry immense responsibility And limited authority.
You will step into people’s lives
And you will make a difference
Some will bless you,
Some will curse you.
You will see people at their worst
And at their best.
You will never cease to be amazed
At people’s capacity for Love, courage, and endurance.
You will experience resounding triumphs
And devastating failures.
You will cry a lot,
You will laugh a lot,
You will know what it is to be human,
And to be humane.
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You guys have been an amazing resource to me over the past two years! I don't know how I could've made it without you.