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I have 5 pre-reqs to go and I am ready to be done with them...lol. So I am taking Oral Communication and Micro in the fall that leaves me with:
Human Body-Holistic
Nursing Pharmacology
Pathophysiology
Question 1, I have winter and spring to finish these in order to apply for Fall 09. Are these classes that I can do together and still get A's or is this too hard when combined together?
2. If not taken together, which 2 would you take together in the winter and the one by itself in Spring.
3. If I combine them, what happens to my financial aid if I am off for spring, summer, and possible longer if not accepted?
Lastly, I have read that Macomb is basing their entrance for 2010 on all required credits. I recieved a not so great grade on AP 1, so would it be a good idea to repeat this class at Macomb for a higher grade if I am not accepted the first time? Macomb told me that they do not hold against you if you repeat a class for a better grade, what do you think?
Thanks!!
I went into Baker to pick up my letter today. LOLI also went to MCC and signed up for the Hesi. They will use my last 18 baker credits to figure my gpa for my app. So that is a 4.0. Now I just have to score really great on the Hesi. I take that exam on December 13th.
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I can't believe this! I also went yesterday and signed up for the Hesi. I almost picked that date but decided on the first session (I think November 13.) Who knows, maybe we will wind up in that program together. I thought your GPA doesn't transfer with credits. How does that work?
I know I pm'd you, but I figure I will explain for anyone else in the future who decides to do the same thing.
The advisor told me that they would use the last 12 (18 because they are from Baker) credits I have taken in my college career. They don't transfer to your total gpa at MCC, but they do use those grades to figure your eligibility for the program. It was the best news I have heard in a while!
I am really nervous about wasting my time and not getting in anywhere though.
I spoke with the director of nursing at Baker today, as well, when I went to pick up my letter (that still hasn't come) and she wanted to make sure that I was going to reapply and said that I had no need to take the NET again with my score. There were 152 students (the most they have had apply). She said that the cut off was 22.63. Usually they get about 60-90 students.
I hope it works out for me for the next time, but I definitely don't want to put my eggs into one basket. If I had known that this was all I needed to do to apply to MCC's program, I would have applied last year. I had all I needed this time last year. I didn't do so well when I went to MCC previously, and when they pulled up my transcript today, I almost didn't even talk to an advisor. I am glad I did, though. If not in this program, I feel confident about applying to possibly other programs now, too.
I'm glad that both of you were able to get in on the Hesi still, I know that it fills up fast.
MCC told me last 12 credits from Baker, and the cut off would be the last 12 with a cut off of the Fall quarter because they require it in by the cut off in February. I was hoping that they really were doing the last 12 instead of 18 because I will have a better GPA that way, I need to make sure then there is no way they go back to my AP last semester since the grade was not great.
She told me it was the last 12 if they were regular classes and 18 for Baker credits, and they use the entire term not just the last 18 credits.
So mine will be fall for 6, Spring (of 08) 9, Winter (08) 12.
For me, it doesn't matter, because I have A's in all those classes. But I could see where that could be a problem.
It's definitely possible to take those three classes together, but if you don't have to then don't. Take into consideration how much time you have to devote to studying, how good you are at time management, and how well you handle stress.
I took Pharm, Patho, Holistics and Oral Comm all together in one semester and maintained my 4.0, and I'm a single mother. It was far from easy, but obviously I survived and I am now accepted into the program.
People have a lot of bad things to say about Baker, but in all fairness they tell you coming in that it's going to be hard and very competitive. You have to really want it, you have to be very driven and detirmined to become a nurse at Baker and be willing to make sacrifices (like a social life, for one).
Baker has one of the top respected programs in the area because it's so difficult to get in. You don't get a spot because you were on a list long enough. You get a spot because you worked your ass off for it.
Good luck!
Baker has one of the top respected programs in the area because it's so difficult to get in. You don't get a spot because you were on a list long enough. You get a spot because you worked your ass off for it.
Good luck!
I think that is a very unfair statement. I decided to go to a school that has a waitlist just for the fact of I wanted to be guaranteed that after spending thousands I would have a degree in what I wanted not by chance of getting selected. And I have worked my ass off in my schooling. It doesn't matter what school it is if its nursing you will.
No, you're right, that didn't come out the way I wanted it to. I didn't mean to implie that those who go to schools with waiting lists are slackers or anything of the sort. But the pressure that exists at Baker certainly doesn't exist at other schools such as Mott, and people who don't attend a college with a competitive nursing program can't understand that unless they experienced it. You work hard to learn the material so that you'll be a good nurse (which is the important thing). We had to learn it with the weight of "you better have a 4.0 and do good on your HESI or you're screwed".
People can complain about it, and I know a lot of people who did while in pre-reqs. But it always bothered me, and that was my point in the last post. You know coming in to Baker that it's competitive, that there's a good chance you won't get accepted (only 40 out of 125 did when I applied), and unless you've no common sense you know it could wind up being a waste of money unless you excell in your studies.
I'm probably earning a lot of enemies on here, and that's the very last thing I want to do. But if there is someone on here who is skimming through posts because they want to go to Baker, then it's unfair to project the idea that it's impossible. It's not Baker's fault if someone doesn't get in. In fact there isn't really any "fault" at all, or at least I'd rather not use that word.
Don't go to Baker if you can't handle stress or pressure. Don't go to Baker if you have horrendous test anxiety, because that will screw you on your HESI. Don't go to Baker if you're ambivilant about being a nurse, or if you're not willing to take all of your pre-reqs seriously (even Oral Communication).
Do go to Baker if you realize that a) nursing is a high-stress, high-pressure career, b) you are able to learn, retain, and then communicate your knowledge (a must-have ability for patient teaching), c)you are willing to make any sacrifices necessary to be a nurse (social life, a clean house), and d) you consciously and carefully weigh the pros and cons of baker vs other schools.
Baker has a great program, great instructors, great class sizes, and a wonderful atmosphere. Hospital staff prefer Baker student nurses over other local student nurses (sorry guys! I'm ******* you off again, but it's true). If you want to be a Baker student nurse, be ready to fight tooth and nail for a spot...be ready to be the best. But, as an aside, don't be one of those pre-req students who is willing to screw others over (giving them wrong info, spreading rumors, etc) to get into the program---remember that you are going into a caring profession, and stepping on others to get to the top doesn't make you any more worthy of a spot. And if you do make it in, people will remember how you treated them and you will have burned a lot of helpful bridges.
We're all in this together as student nurses, no matter what school we come from. Like you said, it's hard no matter where you're at.
But when it comes to pre-reqs, it's important that people weigh both the pros and cons instead of hearing only how much "baker was a disappointment" simply because a person wasn't accepted. Be honest with yourself about whether you've got what it takes or not, then there's no need to "what ifs" and "should haves".
No, you're right, that didn't come out the way I wanted it to. I didn't mean to implie that those who go to schools with waiting lists are slackers or anything of the sort. But the pressure that exists at Baker certainly doesn't exist at other schools such as Mott, and people who don't attend a college with a competitive nursing program can't understand that unless they experienced it. You work hard to learn the material so that you'll be a good nurse (which is the important thing). We had to learn it with the weight of "you better have a 4.0 and do good on your HESI or you're screwed".People can complain about it, and I know a lot of people who did while in pre-reqs. But it always bothered me, and that was my point in the last post. You know coming in to Baker that it's competitive, that there's a good chance you won't get accepted (only 40 out of 125 did when I applied), and unless you've no common sense you know it could wind up being a waste of money unless you excell in your studies.
I'm probably earning a lot of enemies on here, and that's the very last thing I want to do. But if there is someone on here who is skimming through posts because they want to go to Baker, then it's unfair to project the idea that it's impossible. It's not Baker's fault if someone doesn't get in. In fact there isn't really any "fault" at all, or at least I'd rather not use that word.
Don't go to Baker if you can't handle stress or pressure. Don't go to Baker if you have horrendous test anxiety, because that will screw you on your HESI. Don't go to Baker if you're ambivilant about being a nurse, or if you're not willing to take all of your pre-reqs seriously (even Oral Communication).
Do go to Baker if you realize that a) nursing is a high-stress, high-pressure career, b) you are able to learn, retain, and then communicate your knowledge (a must-have ability for patient teaching), c)you are willing to make any sacrifices necessary to be a nurse (social life, a clean house), and d) you consciously and carefully weigh the pros and cons of baker vs other schools.
Baker has a great program, great instructors, great class sizes, and a wonderful atmosphere. Hospital staff prefer Baker student nurses over other local student nurses (sorry guys! I'm ******* you off again, but it's true). If you want to be a Baker student nurse, be ready to fight tooth and nail for a spot...be ready to be the best. But, as an aside, don't be one of those pre-req students who is willing to screw others over (giving them wrong info, spreading rumors, etc) to get into the program---remember that you are going into a caring profession, and stepping on others to get to the top doesn't make you any more worthy of a spot. And if you do make it in, people will remember how you treated them and you will have burned a lot of helpful bridges.
We're all in this together as student nurses, no matter what school we come from. Like you said, it's hard no matter where you're at.
But when it comes to pre-reqs, it's important that people weigh both the pros and cons instead of hearing only how much "baker was a disappointment" simply because a person wasn't accepted. Be honest with yourself about whether you've got what it takes or not, then there's no need to "what ifs" and "should haves".
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, except for a couple of things. I recently received my denial letter from Baker. I worked my butt of on the prerequisites, got all A's and one B in Algebra. I know A & P inside out. I know I will make a great nurse one day. What I don't agree with is the NET test. The one B I received was in Algebra, so that is where I needed improvement on the NET. I don't think the NET is a good predictor of who will make a great nurse. For instance, my friend got in (she had an 80 net score) and by her own admission admits that she really doesn't want to be a nurse. She can't stand working with people, she is doing it for the money. I think the entrance test should be more focused on nursing related issues rather than math and reading. Why don't they test you on A&P? I think someone who excels in the sciences is going to make a better nurse.
For instance, my friend got in (she had an 80 net score) and by her own admission admits that she really doesn't want to be a nurse. She can't stand working with people, she is doing it for the money.
I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me. People like that need to NOT apply to nursing school, and should go someplace else. She is taking up a spot that someone else who REALLY wants to be a nurse could have filled. What a selfish----
I think the entrance test should be more focused on nursing related issues rather than math and reading. Why don't they test you on A&P? I think someone who excels in the sciences is going to make a better nurse.
I agree. I think writing an essay about why you want to be a nurse should be considered also. I'm surprised that Baker's NET doesn't have A+P? I was told it did.
I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me. People like that need to NOT apply to nursing school, and should go someplace else. She is taking up a spot that someone else who REALLY wants to be a nurse could have filled. What a selfish----I agree. I think writing an essay about why you want to be a nurse should be considered also. I'm surprised that Baker's NET doesn't have A+P? I was told it did.
It does have a few A&P questions but it does not count toward your compositie score, so don't worry if you feel you didn't do well on that portion.
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I knew that. That is something worth $55 bucks to me. LOL Although I never have to take the NET again.
I STILL haven't received a letter from Baker.