Military NPs

JDSwartz · Jan 31, 2010

http://www.frontierschool.edu

I did my schooling through frontier.

JDSwartz, FNP

carolinapooh, BSN, RN · Jan 31, 2010

Acute care requires the experience because of the nature of the job. At Duke and here at Wilford Hall, the ACNPs are used as rounding physicians - like residents, in a way - and are expected to be able to diagnose and treat with that level of accuracy. They also end up as more independent practitioners in the ED, and therefore need sharp diagnostic skills there as well.

I'm here with an RN who's going to do her NP starting next year over at UTSA's Health Sciences school.

If you're thinking about coming here to Wilford Hall, you'll need about a year to just get used to the way things are done here. I've been an RN for two years already and there's no way I could think about starting school in the midst of all this - this - PAPER that they use here!

DrCOVID, DNP · Jan 31, 2010

Acute care requires the experience because of the nature of the job. At Duke and here at Wilford Hall, the ACNPs are used as rounding physicians - like residents, in a way - and are expected to be able to diagnose and treat with that level of accuracy. They also end up as more independent practitioners in the ED, and therefore need sharp diagnostic skills there as well.
I'm here with an RN who's going to do her NP starting next year over at UTSA's Health Sciences school.
If you're thinking about coming here to Wilford Hall, you'll need about a year to just get used to the way things are done here. I've been an RN for two years already and there's no way I could think about starting school in the midst of all this - this - PAPER that they use here!

If I choose to join, I will go to Wilford Hall for NTP/PDS.

I know that there is a generally agreed upon increased level of skill needed for "acute care" however one defines it, but by the time I make it through the program, I will have been nursing for a year or two. Either way, I won't know what I am doing until I am actually working in the specific field. I have been in an ER, ICU, Nuero Medical/Surgical floor, and now LTC. To me they are all basically the same. I still have to be prepared for "acute" medicine no matter where I am and all use the same basics nursing skills. Maybe I'm ignorant.

Thanks both of you for the school recommendations! I'll check em out.

hopeful_army_NP · Feb 1, 2010

www.frontierschool.edu
I did my schooling through frontier.
JDSwartz, FNP

I have been an ANP for 5 yrs, I am thinking of getting FNP. Do you know if Frontier has a program for Adult to Family NP? I would only need the peds portion I belive? I am currently ANCC board certified and can treat ages 13 and up. Thanks for any info you have.

carolinapooh, BSN, RN · Feb 1, 2010

If I choose to join, I will go to Wilford Hall for NTP/PDS.
I know that there is a generally agreed upon increased level of skill needed for "acute care" however one defines it, but by the time I make it through the program, I will have been nursing for a year or two. Either way, I won't know what I am doing until I am actually working in the specific field. I have been in an ER, ICU, Nuero Medical/Surgical floor, and now LTC. To me they are all basically the same. I still have to be prepared for "acute" medicine no matter where I am and all use the same basics nursing skills. Maybe I'm ignorant.
Thanks both of you for the school recommendations! I'll check em out.

Two years as an RN in an ED will give you better assessment skills than my two years in even what I'm doing - oncology - because those ED RNs see EVERYTHING. Those departments are not all the same - they all require a different skill set to be an expert in that specialty.

DrCOVID, DNP · Feb 1, 2010

I have been an ANP for 5 yrs, I am thinking of getting FNP. Do you know if Frontier has a program for Adult to Family NP? I would only need the peds portion I belive? I am currently ANCC board certified and can treat ages 13 and up. Thanks for any info you have.

Did you look at the site? Their programs are on there.

Two years as an RN in an ED will give you better assessment skills than my two years in even what I'm doing - oncology - because those ED RNs see EVERYTHING. Those departments are not all the same - they all require a different skill set to be an expert in that specialty.

What is the likelihood of me getting into an ER or ICU when I start? Will begging my commander or telling them I want ACNP or CRNA get me there any faster?

How does the licensing stuff work? Do I need to apply for a license endorsement from Texas in order to attend UTSA for NP?

https://www.bon.state.tx.us/olv/endorsement.html

carolinapooh, BSN, RN · Feb 2, 2010

You're military - you don't need a licensing endorsement.

Your commander does not assign you - your chief RN assigns you, and you won't meet them until you get to your base and are already assigned to a unit. Once you start working on your career development plan, your desires will be known and if your chief RN is worth a hoot, they'll work on getting you where you need to be.

DrCOVID, DNP · Feb 2, 2010

You're military - you don't need a licensing endorsement.
Your commander does not assign you - your chief RN assigns you, and you won't meet them until you get to your base and are already assigned to a unit. Once you start working on your career development plan, your desires will be known and if your chief RN is worth a hoot, they'll work on getting you where you need to be.

Ok, that sounds good. Sorry I don't know if I made myself clear about schooling. Are you certain that if one wants to obtain a degree at UTSA for example they don't need a Texas license?

allnurses Guide · Feb 2, 2010

If you're thinking about coming here to Wilford Hall, you'll need about a year to just get used to the way things are done here. I've been an RN for two years already and there's no way I could think about starting school in the midst of all this - this - PAPER that they use here!

lol....just think we transitioning to DOD paperwork, so all that wonderful paperwork you know now will be changing again. The paperwork changes for every base you goto. It is the worse part about starting at a new unit on another base. That is one of the reasons why we are supposably going to be switching to DOD paperwork. It should be fairly long and painful process... :lol2:

Yeah my orientation is 2 days at my new hospital with approximately 2 weeks working before I am on call as the only anesthesia provider in house. It just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. :eek: It is a good thing that my job doesn't actually really change. I just hope they don't put with any OR/OB nurses that are new to the base either.

carolinapooh, BSN, RN · Feb 2, 2010

lol....just think we transitioning to DOD paperwork, so all that wonderful paperwork you know now will be changing again. The paperwork changes for every base you goto. It is the worse part about starting at a new unit on another base. That is one of the reasons why we are supposably going to be switching to DOD paperwork. It should be fairly long and painful process...
Yeah my orientation is 2 days at my new hospital with approximately 2 weeks working before I am on call as the only anesthesia provider in house. It just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. It is a good thing that my job doesn't actually really change. I just hope they don't put with any OR/OB nurses that are new to the base either.

OH - MY - GOD...about the provider status. I can imagine how you must feel.

We're supposed to be at BAMC by next year, so the paperwork will be changing AGAIN before it changes AGAIN...:)

You'll be fine, though.

athena55, BSN, RN · Feb 2, 2010

Ok, that sounds good. Sorry I don't know if I made myself clear about schooling. Are you certain that if one wants to obtain a degree at UTSA for example they don't need a Texas license?

Hi AdammRN:

Like Carolinapooh stated, you don't need to worry about that. If you graduated from an accredited nursing program, passed your nursing boards, and you are in the Military, you can practice anywhere in the world....as long as you are with an American Force. You've gotta keep your license current as well.

athena