Do male nurses recieve as much respect from patients as female ones do?INPUT IS GREAT - page 3
Hi, I am starting a BS program in nursing in the fall, and I was wondering if male nurses are frowned upon or disrespected in anyway by patients, other nurses, MAs or DRs? Some older folks(such as... Read More
Jun 4, '09Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 531; Likes: 495We've had several male nurses on my unit and their experiences (from an outside view anyway) seem quite different. The older male nurses tended to look and handle themselves more professionally and these are the ones I saw getting more respect from patients and staff alike. I also noticed they didn't tend to participate in the gossip fests at the nursing station either. The younger male nurses on the other hand, tend to have a little more difficulty than their female counterparts. I think part of it is their age (older nurses regardless of experience appear to be more respected imo). The other part I think is that they just don't tend to be as professional in their manner or their appearance. The younger males also tend to spend more time socializing with the other staff than the older males.
So I guess I've seen them get both more and less respect than their female counterparts but it's a lot more dependent on their appearance and behavior than their gender. Just my limited experience!
Jun 6, '09Occupation: Licensed Vocational Nurse Specialty: Rehabilitation; LTC; Med-Surg ; Joined: Nov '08; Posts: 278; Likes: 135Quote from interleukinLOL, if only that were true for everyone. What a blanket statement!Nurses who expect to be respected, are respected.
Gender has nothing, whatsoever, to do with it.
Jun 6, '09Occupation: LTAC RN Specialty: EC, IMU, LTAC ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 531; Likes: 526Quote from arelle68Not to threadjack, but may I have some advice on how to be respected like a man?Men in the profession will make nursing a more respected profession. Why? Because men won't put up with the disrespect women will!
Jun 10, '09Specialty: Critical Care (MICU, CICU, TNCC), ; Joined: Jun '09; Posts: 33; Likes: 21LOL..don't worry. You will get confused with the physicians and when I come in the patient will invariably ask for the nice Dr. who was here yesterday. Statistically, you will make more, hold more administrative nursing positions, etc. So don't worry, the deck is stacked in your favor.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: Staff Nurse Mixed ICU Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in Critical Care, Transport, Disaster ; Joined: Jan '08; Posts: 10; Likes: 5I am a male nurse who went the typical route of practicing as a paramedic for twenty years before I became a nurse... I am not certain whether it is my age or whether it is my background in critical care (or whether it is because I am male) but I get as much if not more respect from patients and other Health Care Providers. In the past 8 years I have had two elderly female patients who wanted a female aid or other nurse help them with toileting or a bath but even those patients were willing to let me help them once I demonstrated that I cared about them as a nurse. I think it is important to keep a positive, caring attitude when caring for any patient and this attitude will carry you through a lot of "male nurse stigma..."
On the flip side, I have had young male patients assume I was gay because I am a male nurse. I don't wear my wedding band because my finger rots off from all of the handwashing but I have pictures of my wife and 8 year old daughter on the back of my work ID if the subject comes up about family...
Jun 10, '09Occupation: ED Charge Specialty: 32 year(s) of experience in NICU, Peds, ICU/CCU, Cathlb,ER, Flight ; Joined: Apr '08; Posts: 35; Likes: 37What I've witnessed in the last 4 yrs. has been hard to take.
We've got a no. of new grad male nurses in our ER.
The patients call them doctors, because they're male, & a few of them don't bother to tell the patient that they are a nurse.
They like to hang out at the doctor's station & B.S. ...with the male doctors they talk sports, with the female doctors, they flirt.
There are a few of the young men nurses that I do respect as a co-worker. I tend to appreciate the older men nurses more...
There are a number of the men nurses that are disrespectful to the older female nurses..."reporting charge nurses, writing up co-workers instead of talking with "them...etc, etc..."
I, too, just found out that a no. of the males are getting more money than females with more experience, who are just as good, if not better nurses. Thank God for the union...
This is now becoming another patriarchal profession.
Good luck in school guy.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: ED Charge Specialty: 32 year(s) of experience in NICU, Peds, ICU/CCU, Cathlb,ER, Flight ; Joined: Apr '08; Posts: 35; Likes: 37" Re: Do male nurses recieve as much respect from patients as female ones do?INPUT IS G
LOL..don't worry. You will get confused with the physicians and when I come in the patient will invariably ask for the nice Dr. who was here yesterday. Statistically, you will make more, hold more administrative nursing positions, etc. So don't worry, the deck is stacked in your favor."
Yep, like I said...patriarchy is alive & well in the nursing profession these days.
The stacked deck that you refer to is an old one.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience in Emergency Department ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '09; Posts: 61; Likes: 100Quick down and dirty response. Men in the nursing get more respect, more money, and patients are more likely to follow their instructions/teaching. Than women in nursing.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience in Emergency Department ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '09; Posts: 61; Likes: 100To add to the response, do not get me wrong, I love nursing it is my passion. However I would love to see a female go into a primarily "male" profession and see these results......
Jun 10, '09Joined: Apr '07; Posts: 114; Likes: 114As a male nursing student on the floor, dressed in NS white, I am frequently addressed by patients and administrative staff as "Doctor." I quickly but gently correct them by stating that I am a nursing student but I would be happy to try and help them, or direct them to their destination.
Since my ID card opens the gate, I park in the doctor's parking lot. I've only been challenged by one parking attendant and I told her I couldn't find my ID. Oh, well, sorry about that ladies.
Jun 10, '09Occupation: Staff Nurse Mixed ICU Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in Critical Care, Transport, Disaster ; Joined: Jan '08; Posts: 10; Likes: 5I occasionally get the Doctor comment from patients and families and I quickly but politely correct them. I interact with physician and other HCP staff as a colleague but I work in an ICU where we work together with a small critical care team where everyone knows the others' strengths and weaknesses very well. It shouldn't matter what your gender is, it should matter what your knowledge, skill and compassion is. While I am respectful of nursing's origins, I am tired of the white dresses and caps vision of nursing. I came to this profession with a wealth of critical care knowledge from paramedicine and my intent is to apply that knowledge for the best possible patient and family outcome. I shouldn't get paid more than a similarly experienced female colleague and if I was I would complain. With 7 % male nurses vs. 93 % females I don't think there's much risk of it being over-run with males. I can not give you good reasons why males reflect a higher than average number of management positions, but I just resigned from a management position to go back to the bedside and anyone who wants my old job, male or female, can have it ...
Jun 11, '09Occupation: CRNA Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in Gas, ICU, ACLS, PALS, BLS ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '08; Posts: 115; Likes: 91As a male I feel that other nurses, MD's, and patients listen to me and respect me, but I feel that they listen to me/respect me more because I'm knowledgeable than because I'm a male. Just think before speaking or acting and learn as much as possible and become the best nurse you can be.
Jun 11, '09Occupation: Staff nurse medical floor Specialty: 24 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Jun '06; Posts: 6; Likes: 2I've been a "male nurse" for 27 years now and have seen this issue change over the years. I do think my age and experience has also played a role in how I'm viewed. I've seen many young nurses both genders questioned if they knew what they were doing.
Gender bias isn't as strong as it used to be with most people. It's absolutely true that MD'S will show their dark side to female nurses more often than with males. I saw a surgeon just last year walk into preop and proceed to take one of my peers apart. I interrupted him with the info that it was my patient. He stopped cold and told me to be more careful next time.
I think the important side of this issue is that each of us must be sensitive to the needs of patient's, family, MD's and other nurses. I've worked with female nurses who were men haters due to bad relationships. It took a little work to earn their respect. Remember we all come from different cultural backgrounds and have different experiences. We don't easily put aside the cultural bias we were raised with. It would be great if we were all treated with respect all the time. That won't happen in my lifetime or yours. Be very slow to become angry.
I don't know if I'm paid more than my peers and honestly don't want to know, but I try to be the kind of nurse everyone wants to show respect to.