Masters Vs DNP

[dkrings1]

I have heard varying degrees of information regarding obtaining a MSN and DNP in relation to becoming a nurse practitioner in different states. I am from Nebraska, and know that doctorates will be requirement soon to fulfill the scope of an NPs practice. I wouldnt be opposed to relocating. I hear there are approx 100 DNP programs across the nation; are all states requiring a DNP to practice as a nurse practitioner, a la the RN to BSN requirement? Am I better off setting up with a DNP program, as it will become a requirement no matter where I relocate to? Any info or links are welcomed

[1hopefulChik]

So does this mean you have a masters as an APN? Both your education and your experience do matter in the sense you are arguing your personal opinion on the topic, hopefully as an expert in the field.

Does this mean that ONLY people with a masters as an APN are intelligent and aware enough to understand that this is a controversial topic, even among the intelligentsia in nursing?

All you learned people crack me up!

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Does this mean that ONLY people with a masters as an APN are intelligent and aware enough to understand that this is a controversial topic, even among the intelligentsia in nursing?

All you learned people crack me up!

I take it to mean that if you are going to argue about something you should at least be educated on the matter or have some personal relevant experience/expertise. I don't think a pre-nursing student's personal experience or education counts.

You stated that your undergraduate classes were enough to understand scientific literature and use that for EBP decisions, so why not share some peer-reviewed scientific literature that supports your opinion on DNP/DNAPs.

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

All you learned people crack me up!

If you already know everything, why not stop now because school must not have anything else to teach you.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

Does this mean that ONLY people with a masters as an APN are intelligent and aware enough to understand that this is a controversial topic, even among the intelligentsia in nursing?

All you learned people crack me up!

I think it is very difficult for anyone without any APN experience or education to understand the effect on doctoral-level education on advanced practice. Do you honestly think you can truly "understand" the issue with no education or experience in the discipline?

I don't presume to "understand" doctorate education in PT or pharmacy or archeology or astronomy or physics or religious studies or any other discipline that I have less then a bachelors level education or experience in.

[HarryTheCat, MSN, RN]

I agree with your assessment of DNP curricula. With most programs that I have looked at there is a lot of emphasis on research and administration and very little in the way of nursing knowledge and skills that can be applied in practice. It always seems to me that the academics who design these programs just can't think outside the academic box. Their "finished products" can probably produce a scholarly, properly APA-formatted paper on Martha Rogers' Science of Unitary Human Beings theory, but are short on advanced nursing knowledge and skills. For comparison, take a look at the DNP program at Rush University.

[elkpark]

Their "finished products" can probably produce a scholarly, properly APA-formatted paper on Martha Rogers' Science of Unitary Human Beings theory, but are short on advanced nursing knowledge and skills. For comparison, take a look at the DNP program at Rush University.

The reason for this is that the larger nursing community feels (appropriately, IMO) that advanced practice nurses already learn enough "advanced nursing knowledge and skills" to safety enter practice in the existing MSN programs. The point of the switch to the DNP is largely about adding the extra content on research, policy, administration, etc. (at least, that's the rationale the pro-DNP crowd came up with to rationalize making it a doctorate).

[manusko]

Not to mention the added $$$ they will charge for this old and some new content.