too many interventions in L&D

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do you think there are too many interventions in L&D. It seems lately all our patients are pitted,ruptured, induced and or augmented. Some of our docs give patients arbitrary time limits for each phase if they don,t proceed on scedule it,s time for forceps or c/s. Just yesterday had patient who was G1P0, in labor had estimated 9lb baby, was progressing well baby was doing fine. patient had an epidural which was dosed why to heavy, not use of legs pt pushed first 1/2 hour or so very ineffectively, finally got the hang of it. baby was moving,doc came in at her 2 hour time limit checked patient says baby not moving at all. she called c/s. patient had adequate pelvic outlet, baby was at +2 or greater station when prepped. delivered 9lb 1 oz male by c/s.

do you see this happen a lot in your area?

shay, I am in agreement about "a baby story" my husband wont let me watch it because I get so upset! The first one I saw, the pt. had a prolapsed cord at home, and took her time getting to the hospital! (There was a midwife with her)

Originally posted by kcrnsue

shay, I am in agreement about "a baby story" my husband wont let me watch it because I get so upset! The first one I saw, the pt. had a prolapsed cord at home, and took her time getting to the hospital! (There was a midwife with her)

OMG! I think I saw that one too! The one where the midwife is checking her in the tub, and "thinks" the cord might be prolapsed, and tells the pt that she needs to get out so that she can recheck her...instead of dragging her out of the tub like we would. Then, she confirms prolapsed cord, and tells the pt that they'll have to go to the hospital...The pt stands there and bawls crocodile tears "OH! But I wanted to deliver at home!" like she has NO CLUE that her baby's life is in danger! And then they spend time discussing how to get to the hospital around all that construction...and then she WALKS the pt into the hospital, rather than calling ahead for a gurney and people who know what the heck they are doing...

And, of course, she was a crash c/s because "the baby's heartbeat was low"

DUH! I remember being amazed at her allowing that film to be shown...makes things real easy if the family sues her!

I agree with NO social inductions.... the docs have increased our c/s rate up to about 40%. This because the "social" inductions have primip's, who are not ready, stressing the fetus. Also, a few prolapse cords because of arom when the patient is +3 and floating. Some of our MD's allow the patient to call the shot and be induced at 37-38 weeks....But what do you do

Originally posted by just1rn

I agree with NO social inductions.... the docs have increased our c/s rate up to about 40%. This because the "social" inductions have primip's, who are not ready, stressing the fetus. Also, a few prolapse cords because of arom when the patient is +3 and floating. Some of our MD's allow the patient to call the shot and be induced at 37-38 weeks....But what do you do

Yeah, that amazes me to see docs scheduling inductions for "maternal discomfort" as the diagnosis! And, these patients seem to have no clue about the risks involved...they just want a quick fix to their aching pregnant body...

Originally posted by OB4ME

Yeah, that amazes me to see docs scheduling inductions for "maternal discomfort" as the diagnosis! And, these patients seem to have no clue about the risks involved...they just want a quick fix to their aching pregnant body...

Oh man! Don't get me started! I want to beat some sense into women that want an induction at 37 weeks and tell them "Ya think that hurts? Wait'll you get the Pit!"

Not an OB RN here - what is a "fourth degree?"

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

a "4th degree" is an OB term referring to the horrendous occurence of a perineal tear extending all the way INTO the rectum.... (tear essentially creating one big gaping opening from lady parts to rectum, it is ugly). Yes, it is the worst kind and if not properly repaired, can bring about lifetime problems with fecal incontinence among other things.

This discussion brings back my fears as a first and second time mother. I didn't work in L&D but I did my homework. What I found scared me to death. My choice was to get good prenatal care, hire a midwife (couldn't afford a nurse midwife), and bear my children in the hospital. Best decision I ever made. The midwife came over to my house when I called early in the morning. She came over immediately and checked me. I hung out at home, timed the contractions, getting checked until I was at least far enough along, I wouldn't stall. Got to the hospital with no time for epidural, thank God. Had both my kids different years but within 2 hours of admission. Labor pain, I say get a vibrating pillow. My first was 10 lbs 8 oz. My second was 9 lbs 15 oz. and term. My doctor wanted to induce me a week before but I said NO not unless there is something seriously wrong. There wasn't of course. I do have a L&D question. I'm not diabetic, doctor checked several times. Why is it in my OB class textbook, high normal is something like 8 lbs? Over that is always in the same sentence with diabetes? I'm 42 years old with no health problems except ADHD (found out recently and didn't take so much as a Tylenol during my pregnancies.) I'm 5'9 1/2"; my husband 6'2". Am I at a higher risk for diabetes since I bore large for gestational age and healthy children? I had them both lady partslly with an episiotomy. The doctor didn't tell me he was going to cut me but I probably needed it with such big babies.

One more thought. The EFM. Once admitted to the L&D, they put that on me. I told those who were with me to ignore it. The monitor would say I was having a doosey, and I'd be like its way off. I as the patient was the best judge of when I was having a contraction. I am looking forward to my L&D rotation. Yes, I'll probably glance at it now and then to see if it works for the woman who is before me but my eyes will be on her and what she says is gospel unless there is some other factor she brings in that makes her an unreliable patient. This week, I'm going to an OB clinic to observe. Maybe I can encourage a more natural birth than the epidural-pitocin-c/s route without getting into trouble.

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Yes, How about those patients who are convenience inductions either for themselves or the doc. Everyone knows if you aren't ready to go into labor no amount of pit is going to do anything....And if you come back more than once for a labor check then you know you are going to be admitted, ruptured, pitted and sectioned because they don't want to be bothered by us nurses calling them once again about their problem patient. Ticks me off too...

wishingmary-- you know you not supposed to watch the monitor. :)

the external monitor is not an acurate measure id ctx strength. i let the patient tell me:)

social inductions and inducing the problem patients ticks me off also. just labeling them ticks me off

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