Mandated!

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I started a new job as an ICU RN in January, and I'm still on my 6 month probation. I work for a large University State hospital and mostly it's a good place to work, but now I'm starting to think otherwise. Last week I worked 6 12hr night shifts in a row by choice as I pushed all my shifts together so I could arrange a few days off to go home to England and see my family. On the morning of the last shift, 2 hours before I finished, they told me I was mandated to return at 3pm, although I only finished work at 7.30am. I told them that I was due to leave for the airport and had a flight, hotel and car rental booked and spent $2000 on my trip, and everybody knew I was going on vacation. They told me that they didn't care and that I had to return to work from 3-7pm or I would be in trouble. I refused as I thought this was unfair. I know we may get mandated on occasion but I thought there should be some leeway if you have mitigating or unavoidable circumstances. Anyway, I went on my trip as I hadn't seen my parents in 6 months and I wasn't going to miss it.

When I returned nobody said anything to me, but on the the very first shift I got mandated again, this time to work from 7am to 11am after a night shift, so I effectively worked from 7pm until 11am...a 16 hour shift! I had no breaks at all in 16 hours, and I kept on getting more and more patients. During that shift I had about 5 ICU patients, and even though I managed to transfer all but one of them they still didn't let me go home. The last patient was not intubated and was waiting for a transfer, and for some reason they'd drafted in a floor nurse and a 1:1 that the patient absolutely did not need, and yet they still demanded that I stay and take responsibility for this patient, even though the floor nurse was more than capable of caring for her. It didn't seem to make sense to me. I can not understand why a low level non-ICU patient needed an ICU nurse, a floor nurse and a 1:1 all to herself when we were so short staffed. Madness! At 10.10am they even had the cheek to give me another patient, after working nearly 16 hours with no break. The worst thing was, I was required to return that night at 7pm for another shift, and by the time I got home that day, I'd only had 3 hours sleep. I felt terrible and now I've very annoyed at the whole situation. It seems very unfair.

It appears that they use mandation as an answer to every day staffing problems instead of solving the problem in other ways. They never cancel scheduled open heart patients if they don't have the staff...they just mandate people to come in instead. In England this would never happen. In my old unit in London if we didn't have the staff we would not accept the patient, and if there was no bed then scheduled (non-emergent) surgery would be cancelled. Also, this unit appears to accept any old thing into ICU. In England patients had to fulfill criteria in order to be accepted into ICU. Here we take anything. The other night I had a post surgical hip arthroplasty. When asked why he was coming to ICU I was told because "he was bilateral"! I mean what's up with that? He wasn't even intubated or even very sick. He went out the next morning. I work with a travel nurse who wants to become part of the staff, and yet they tell her there are no vacancies, despite us getting mandated all the time. I don't think I can live like this as I play in a band that travel all over the US, and if I have a plane ticket to a show I won't be able to stay at short notice. I believe a day off is a day off unless it's an emergency. I need to be able to have a life and plan things and not live by the phone waiting for the call from work. I am seriously considering leaving and becoming an agency nurse.

Specializes in Telemetry, ICU, Resource Pool, Dialysis.

I've never heard of mandating overtime in the hospitals around here. I just can't understand why anyone would put up with it! People putting up with this kind of treatment is why they keep doing it! You are right to get out now!! It probably costs alot less for the hospital to pay you overtime than it does to have to use agency, which is why you haven't seen agency nurses around! If something happened on your shift b/c of your exhaustion, don't count on your employer to stand behind you. Good luck Rocknurse!

Specializes in Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health.

My brother works corrections and can be mandated, but they have to catch you first ;). The specific procedures for mandating are in the contract and people that work there understand it and accept it as part of the job.

I've said it here before: the day my hospital forces me to stay for anything other than a declared code yellow (major emergency, two-busloads-of-nuns-in-an-accident-being-brought-in-at-once kind of thing) is the *last* day I will set foot in that facility.

I will go to the mat for my clinic, tho. We are treated respectfully and we return it.

My unit (and I think it's hospital-wide) has a "call" requirement. We have to take one 12 hr shift every 2 weeks (3 on a six-week schedule) to be "on call". The problem is, they use this not as a "last resort", but just to fix staffing. It's a rare on-call day that we don't have to work. We don't have the type of mandatory overtime that the OP is talking about, where they just tell you at the drop of a hat, but this feels like mandatory OT to me, because I don't want to work over my scheduled days. Unfortunately, "saying no" is not an option for this. I do choose to do it, I guess, by continuing to work there.

But I don't like it.

Washington has a law against mandatory overtime in nursing. It is their responsibility to find someone to cover the shifts, not the individual nurse's. If they absolutely can't find someone, we have had our assistant nurse managers take over shifts (happens extremely rarely), but nurses are not in any way forced to work overtime.

Apparently our union contract was one of the first nationally to prohibit mandatory OT. It hasn't ever been a problem, but I'm still glad they can't pull that trick in case they ever want to.

Today my ANM came in, on Saturday, to take an assignment. I don't like her much but I still think we're lucky to have managers that (sometimes) pull their weight.

Washington has a law against mandatory overtime in nursing.

California also has a regulation that bans mandatory overtime except under specific emergency situations.

You may want to check with the BON in your state because there may be laws or regulations that ban this practice.

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Where I work is a cardiology step down unit. Three months ago in an effort to decrease the payment of stipend shifts (10 to 20 dollars per hour extra) we were required to sign up for 2 on call shifts per month but since our unit is self schedule many of us sign up for days that it is unlikely we will be called in. Does not always work as I got called in a couple days ago. Our hospital routinely refuses to accept more patients if there are not enough nurses and the charge nurse and house supervisor cannot find anymore wiling to come in. Most of us are still mad at the 2 on/call days since it had been just one day a month. Depending on the staffing situation sometimes (rarely) we may be required to work in CCU but since the CCU unit has many more staff available it is more common to see the CCU nurses working on the cardiology floor. Our supervisors ask if we can come in but readily take "no" for an answer. Our charge nurses try not to take patients so they can be available to help everyone but if the admission of one or more patients is putting an undue burden on the staff they readily take patients. We don't usually clock out after our shift until we check to make sure no other nurse on the floor is behind and we offer to help where we can. This makes it a much more pleasant place to work.

you need to send these people to the state board, and tell them that if they don't have enough staff they should close the doors until they do.

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