Lpn Or Rn?

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Hello!

My daughter has been accepted into the LPN program this fall but is also on the Wait list at #10 for the RN program.

She is doubtful that she will get into RN program with being #10 on list. (the school only accepted 50 students).

I am concerned that if she goes into the LPN program that the school will basically ignore her being on the wait list for RN. However if she doesn't get all her ducks in a row soon she will miss out on the LPN program. I am not sure when the FINAL word will come that she is either accepted into RN program or not...

What do you all think? Should she go ahead into the LPN and later try for the RN program? Both programs are at the same

school.

Thank you in advance for your input!

Is another college a possibility? Could she get financial aid and go somewhere with more options/openings? Can you ask college advisor if she enrolls for LPN do they take her off wait list? Would not seem ethical that they did. My opinion is LPN is a waste of time and money. She would be better off becoming medical assistant.

I would never say PN education is a waste of money...time maybe, but not money. But where I live in the NE USA, LPN's don't get hospital jobs, just LTC. Not that anything is wrong with that, it just depends on what you want to do for the rest of your life...what your career goals are. Just sayin'.:nurse:

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Is another college a possibility? Could she get financial aid and go somewhere with more options/openings? Can you ask college advisor if she enrolls for LPN do they take her off wait list? Would not seem ethical that they did. My opinion is LPN is a waste of time and money. She would be better off becoming medical assistant.

I believe that is the question she is going to ask her advisor today...(about the wait list aspect)...

I guess my main question is: would it be worth the wait(to see if she is accepted to RN program) or just go ahead and do the LPN first..without waiting for the final word about the RN program...

I do not know if she applied at other colleges....:)

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I believe that is the question she is going to ask her advisor today...(about the wait list aspect)...

I guess my main question is: would it be worth the wait(to see if she is accepted to RN program) or just go ahead and do the LPN first..without waiting for the final word about the RN program...

I do not know if she applied at other colleges....:)

Are LPN's in your are still getting jobs?? Maybe look on some job opportunity sites, like "indeed.com". That might help her make a choice. Have her shadow a LPN at his/her job. That also might give her insight into waiting to be accepted into an RN or PN program. Just sayin'. :twocents::nurse:

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Are LPN's in your are still getting jobs?? Maybe look on some job opportunity sites, like "indeed.com". That might help her make a choice. Have her shadow a LPN at his/her job. That also might give her insight into waiting to be accepted into an RN or PN program. Just sayin'. :twocents::nurse:

She is a CNA now. So she has shadowed LPN's and RN's....

Definitely wants the RN.

I guess after all is said and done it is her decision and how she handles it all and I have to stop stressing myself about it!

Thank you~:nurse:

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She is a CNA now. So she has shadowed LPN's and RN's....

Definitely wants the RN.

I guess after all is said and done it is her decision and how she handles it all and I have to stop stressing myself about it!

Thank you~:nurse:

Good luck! She obviously wants nursing if she is already a CNA (hard, hard work) and still wants to be a nurse. Congratulations, Mom! :):nurse:

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She is a CNA now. So she has shadowed LPN's and RN's....

Definitely wants the RN.

I guess after all is said and done it is her decision and how she handles it all and I have to stop stressing myself about it!

Thank you~:nurse:

I can see you cryin' at her graduation already! ;)

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LPN is a great way to get her feet wet, and less investment if she discovers healthcare is not for her. There are alot of bridging programs available for LPN to RN as well.

However, if she's positive she wants healthcare, money isn't an immediate issue, I'd recommend RN. Not only will it get her to a better salary sooner. It will give her that 'college experience' that would help her be a more well rounded individual.

I love being an LPN.

Justin Daniel wileman

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Specializes in School Nursing.

A lot of private doctor's offices in my area use LPNs instead of medical assistants for rooming. Not a bad gig for a year certificate program, if you ask me.

My sister in an RN (ADN) working in a doctors office (a system type clinic where there is a chain of campuses with doctors from all specialties) working phone triage. She has over 25 years experience. All the BSNs she worked along side have been eliminated or reassigned due to budget cuts or they simply weren't 'cutting' it for one reason or the other. The LVNs are doing the rooming. The doctors have close relationships with their nurses both LVN and RN. It's a 'cushy' job for all from what I understand.

She told me recently that they were talking about letting go all of the LVNs and replacing them with medical assistants. She said she's seen LVNs get this shaft before in others times during her career as a nurse. Every time it happened she said the powers that be realize there is an important place for LVNs in the system and they end up getting reincorporated back in.

A decade or so she worked in a hospital that decided it would get rid of ALL LVNs and replace them with RNs. Well that was a disaster because it ended up costing them a fortune as LVNs do a LOT of the same work for a LOT less. The LVNs were shortly added back to the floors.

She also said that she's seen the 'ALL BSN' thing begin and abruptly end in her career before too. She said, and it actually made a little sense, that BSN nurses rarely stay at the beside for long because they either try walking up the ladder quickly or go back to school for higher degrees and leave bedside nursing for that reason. So in essence, to keep the higher educated nurses at the beside, they'd need to bend over backwards, and we all know that isn't something hospitals are willing to do for their beside nurses.

So- eventually they'll realize that all these "BSN" only hiring practices will blow up in their faces when all their BSNs leave to further their education or demand the respect and pay that their further education should provide.

It makes perfect sense to me.

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A lot of private doctor's offices in my area use LPNs instead of medical assistants for rooming. Not a bad gig for a year certificate program, if you ask me.

My sister in an RN (ADN) working in a doctors office (a system type clinic where there is a chain of campuses with doctors from all specialties) working phone triage. She has over 25 years experience. All the BSNs she worked along side have been eliminated or reassigned due to budget cuts or they simply weren't 'cutting' it for one reason or the other. The LVNs are doing the rooming. The doctors have close relationships with their nurses both LVN and RN. It's a 'cushy' job for all from what I understand.

She told me recently that they were talking about letting go all of the LVNs and replacing them with medical assistants. She said she's seen LVNs get this shaft before in others times during her career as a nurse. Every time it happened she said the powers that be realize there is an important place for LVNs in the system and they end up getting reincorporated them back in.

She a decade or so she worked in a hospital that decided it would get rid of ALL LVNs and replace them with RNs. Well that was a disaster because it ended up costing them a fortune as LVNs do a LOT of the same work for a LOT less. The LVNs were shortly added back to the floors.

She also said that she's seen the 'ALL BSN' thing begin and abruptly end in her career before too. She said, and it actually made a little sense, that BSN nurses rarely stay at the beside for long because they either try walking up the ladder quickly or go back to school for higher degrees and leave bedside nursing for that reason. So in essence, to keep the higher educated nurses at the beside, they'd need to bend over backwards, and we all know that isn't something hospitals are willing to do for their beside nurses.

So- eventually they'll realize that all these "BSN" only hiring practices will blow up in their faces when all their BSNs leave to further their education or demand the respect and pay that their further education should provide.

It makes perfect sense to me.

I graduated from a diploma, hospital based, 3 year program in the early 1970's. Back then all the diploma schools were closing (mine closed in 1984) because diploma nurses were being phased out and only BSN's would be able to get jobs. Long time ago, wasn't it? Never happened...that's when more and more PN programs started and ADN programs began to pop up. The hospitals couldn't pay enough...there weren't enough BSN grads...AND, frankly, a degree has nothing to do with the quality of nursing care..the nurse does.

Hospitals are making demands like this NOW because they CAN... not because we as nurses have let them. Just like it's a BUYER'S market in real estate right now (have you been keeping up with the news?) it is an EMPLOYER'S market right now in the country and this includes hospitals. Things will change ...I'd bet my white starched nurse's cap on it! :jester: Just sayin'.

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LPN is a great way to get her feet wet, and less investment if she discovers healthcare is not for her. There are alot of bridging programs available for LPN to RN as well.

However, if she's positive she wants healthcare, money isn't an immediate issue, I'd recommend RN. Not only will it get her to a better salary sooner. It will give her that 'college experience' that would help her be a more well rounded individual.

I love being an LPN.

Justin Daniel wileman

Thank you for your Post, Justin...

Money is an issue as well as time as far as trying to get through the LPN program then onto an RN Program..

I am hoping she gets the RN for the reasons you stated above,,,

I have worked with many LPN's over the years and have to say that I have met a lot that

are better nurses than the RN's I have worked with....and I am an R.N...

My brother is an LPN....:nurse:

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Specializes in OB/GYN/OR.

i'm sorry if i've offended anyone... but i stand by my comments ..please read this post

it's here: bsn only hiring in hospitals

mar 18, 2011 02:37 am written by nrskarenrn pa.png award_star_gold_15000.gif staff.gif staff | 92 comments

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Specializes in Psych, Geriatrics.

There are several hospital systems in Georgia, including the VA, that only hire BSNs. But someone above had a good point: most of them (I'd bet 80%) move on to management or higher education or both within 3 years. So they keep having to retrain staff, retrain, hire, hire, etc. It hasn't worked out well for the hospital I am thinking of in particular.

But yeah, hospitals are being more picky in general right now. I'll bet when the economy improves and nurses retire or go back to part-time/home/kids opportunities will improve.

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