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First of all, hello to you all. For the past 2-evenings I've been reading the posts here and have come across so much valuable information already. Thank God for this site. I might be visiting it often in the months to come.

A little about me... I just turned 40 a few months ago. I'm married and have a 14-yr-old daughter. I worked as a medical transcriptionist for 12-years up until June 2007 when I finally quit to start school full-time working towards an ADN. (I've always wanted to be in nursing but could never afford to go to school until now). I took 11 classes at our local community college which included all of the pre-req's and also some additional psych classes (which I loved). I was a little worried about how I'd do going back to school after so many years, but I did terrific and have a GPA of 3.75. In August 2008, I applied for the RN program and was told that I'd probably be accepted for the January 2010 class, but they couldn't guarantee it because it's a very competitive program and with my lower GPA, higher GPA's would be considered first. So.... after about $8,000.00 already paid to them for the classes I already took (and with no guarantee of even getting into the program), I decided to apply to our local CTC school for the LPN program. By September I had already taken the NET and was registered to start LPN school in January.

So I pay the $200.00 registration fee, $179.00 for uniforms, $500.00 for books, and take out a $10,000.00 student loan. I'm so excited and can't wait to start.

Along comes January... school starts the 5th. (Class is M-F 8-3). And OMG! I was so unprepared.

Day one - orientation - starts with dividing the students (75 total) into 2-classes. Then an all day lecture about the rules and regulations. It's an adult class, but since we are in a CTC with high-school students, we have to follow all the rules of the high-school students, seriously - bathroom passes and cell-phone useage. The instructors don't even look at us when they talk - they talk at us. They treat us like we're beneath them. The "head-honcho" director of the nursing program tells us that only 40% of this class will make it to the end of level I and that since so many will be gone, both classes will be able to merge into one by the time level II starts. WHY tell us that???? OMG. Is it that hard? You mean only 4 out of the 10 people around me are actually going to make it to the next level? They tell us that if we fail this level, that our student loans won't pay for it because we failed and we'll have to pay for it ourselves with another type of loan. WHAT??? They tell us that "they" decide if we pass or fail - NOT just the scantrons. They tell us that even if we do great on the scantrons, we might do bad in clinicals and they'll fail us for the whole level if we do. WHAT?? Told us that if we were sick, we'd automatically get 10 points deducted from our test/quiz. If we were late, we'd get locked out of the room and get points deducted. If we were caught with a cell phone on us or in our handbag during a test, we'd automatically get a 0 and be dismissed from class. I went home the first night in shock. I thought this was going to be a great experience - but the first day was just so negative, to say the least. I felt like I was in military school or prison.

The week goes on and my nerves were shot already. I just couldn't seem to relax and get my head together. Everyday people were already getting written up for things (with points taken off their final grade) - things like wrinkled uniforms (we sit in class all day with no clinicals until March so nobody sees us), too large post earrings, hair not short enough, etc. These rules weren't even ligitimate rules in the handbook either! That particular instructor made them up. ?? We have to wear custom ordered white pants and a white zippered shirt with a white apron - we sit all day and of course it's gonna get wrinkled. God. I felt like I was constantly on edge about having wrinkled pants! All this and then they're piling the work on and talking to us like we're idiots. We had a test on a chapter that we didn't even review in class. The powerpoint was broke, so we didn't even have a presentation. We had to do all of our homework every night and it was checked every morning. If it wasn't completed in full, we got a 0. (sometimes it's kinda hard to do 6 pages of homework every night when you have 3 tests the next day that don't even pertain to that homework). The first Friday, we had to memorize over 150 medical words and were tested on them. I did ok on that test though and also the A&P test - amazingly.

By the end of the week, I was sicker than could be. My nerves, and apparently a stomach virus, got the best of me. I made a doctors appt and my bp and pulse were both sky high. I had diarrhea so bad I wouldn't dare to cough - especially in my white pants OMG! I had my period and was flooding. I hadn't slept more than 4 hours a night for the past week and felt like I was losing my mind. They put me on bp meds and lexapro - which I'd never been on before in my 40-yrs.

The second week comes and I'm drained. We had 7-tests that week. Monday was the first nursing foundations test. I bombed it. Only 6 out of 33 people passed it with a 75% or above. The instructor reviewed it with us and made it sound like we didn't know how to take tests and that's why we failed it. The questions were so tricky and were about stuff that we didn't even review or that I never even heard of. She just kept saying she went over all this in class and we should've known the answers. Come on. If it was all stuff she went over, then more than 6 people would've passed it. Stupid. Tuesday and Wednesday were just as bad. I came home every night and studied and cried. I felt so bad and since we had 7-tests that week, I couldn't call in sick (even with a doctors excuse) because they'd deduct points from my grade. I felt sooooooo hopeless.

Thursday I had no option but to call in sick. I had diarrhea pouring out of me and my stomach was just churning and churning. I had 2-tests that day and an oral presentation and there was no way it was gonna happen. So, by me calling in sick, I automatically got 30-points taken off.

Friday I withdrew. I was still sick and would've missed 2-more tests that day, so I really had no choice because I would've failed anyway and would've had to repay $3500.00 for failing.

So, I re-enrolled for the evening class (longer and less crammed together). Maybe I'm totally crazy!? I don't know. It's the only way I could roll over the $1800.00 I owed them onto my student loan. I just feel so uncertain now. I have until May to decide. I never even thought for a second that it would be like this. I'm not a complainer and have been through some tough jobs and bosses in my life. I've always adapted and never had a problem. I didn't expect to be treated like a pathetic loser and talked to like I'm 5 years old. College was a piece of cake compared to this! The instructors were nice and didn't try to trick you. If you were sick (which I never was), you'd just take the test when you came back with no points deducted. I mean, I'm paying them! They're not paying me.

I just don't understand any of it. Maybe it's the school? Maybe all schools are like this? What rights do we as students have? Any? What if we do great on the tests but a nasty instructor says she didn't like the way you did your clinicals and fails you? What right do you have? There's a lot of money involved here - money that my family can't afford to waste because some instructor doesn't like the way you did something or because your uniform was wrinkled.

Sorry this is so long. I'm so confused and bewildered with everything.

Thanks kindly for listening as I rambled on. Geez.

Marie

Specializes in ob/gyn med /surg.

yes every school is different, but most are very strict . my school was very stressful and we had many fail each semester. the last semester we had 16 fail , i know we started out with 125 and ended with 30. the told us at the begining only the best and brightest will make it.

you have to take care of yourself when you are in nursing school, sleep , eat right and get a big calender and write down when assignments are due. take it one day one test at a time. at one time we had 8 major tests in 1 week. and i studied and spent only so much time on each test and made thousands of flashcards. but i passed every test. i prayed alot , prayers help.

don't give up your dream. now you know what you are up against and you can conquer this beast. i send you lots of hugs .

Good grief. That is the worst thing I have EVER heard. That doesn't sound like nursing school... that sounds like prison. When I started nursing school, they told us that we are a family and that we have to pull together and help one another get through. I wore jeans to class, sometimes pajamas depending on how late I stayed up the night before...

Is there a dean or someone there that you could go and talk to and express your concerns? I know at my school, our dean was very approachable. She knew everyone by first name, and we were sorry when she decided to take a new job.

I was one of the older students in my class, and I was afraid that the "high school drama" would carry over into their approach to us on the first day. I was pleased to see that they treated us as adults (yet still with a lot of hand-holding).

Bottom line is, for that amount of money, I would want some respect. I would talk to the dean, express your concerns, get their opinion (reminding them how much you want to be a nurse) and see where they guide you. After all, they are there to guide you (supposedly).

I wish you luck!

Well, you all have scared the b'Jesus out of me. I was hoping to work full time and do an lpn program at night - is that crazy?

Specializes in EMS~ ALS.../...Bartending ~ Psych :).
Well, you all have scared the b'Jesus out of me. I was hoping to work full time and do an lpn program at night - is that crazy?

My program is days 8-3 and I can honestly tell you that we had a hand full of people that worked full time start class, but as of last week, the last one of them failed out of the program.. he failed in Geriatrics.

Now mind you he was having marital issues also..... So I honestly think he may have just given up.

But all in all, 6 months into the program, of those of us that are left, if they work at all, its part time at best.

Good Luck and Im sure if you want it, you will find a way to make it work.........

Specializes in Pediatrics, Geriatrics, LTC.

you know, I've been thinking and we have to realize that when we get 'out there' we are going to be working under an RN or MD and so had better get used to taking orders and doing what we're told. If the instructors are hard on you, I think it's probably a good thing to get used to. If you can't take it as a learning experience, either do something else or learn to love learning experiences! LOL..... :heartbeat

LOL- From my Catholic school experiences, being taught by nuns, priests and Irish Christian brothers I know all about taking orders and doing what Im told.

Specializes in ICU, Trauma, ER, Peds, Family Practice.

I too went to Catholic schools throughout elementary and some of high school. I went to a Catholic nursing school. I was taught by nuns and priests. My RN training was at a Catholic school and hospital. However, for me it may have contributed to me being more rebelious and a bit wild. But I was very good in times of change in my years of nursing and had the ability to speak up for my profession as the oppression I felt in school was no longer severing me as a professional. So all those years of being threatened and the instilling the fear of guilt lead me to a place to become a stronger person . As I look back, it all seems so militaristic. I have always tryed to treat LPN's and nursing assistances as a strong part of the team and have tried not to feel like I was telling someone to do something but to teach them the essentials of patient care . I dont like commanding co-workers. I think we all work together for the patients greater and highest good.

Anyway, this is an interesting discussion on learning techiniques in the current nursing arena. :heartbeat

Paddlelady

After much thought about the pros and cons of my own experience, I have to say that what I got from my early Catholic eduation was more positive than negitive. Oh sure, I rebelled and got a little crazy when I got to college, then again it was the early 70's. I did get shorted changed in some areas, for instance we had very little music and art and my grammer school didn't have a gym. However I know I did get a superior academic education, far beyond what I would have recieved in the local public school and certainly beyond what my parents could have afforded. As a freshman in college I was amazed at how advanced my courses in high school had been and I realized that the all famous CS DISIPLINE extended to studies and that I was a critical thinker.

I also believe, or would like to believe that since my time Catholic schools have become more progessive and much, if not all of the physical and psychological abuse is gone.

Well, you all have scared the b'Jesus out of me. I was hoping to work full time and do an lpn program at night - is that crazy?

I currently work full time, married and have 4 children. I am in the nights and weekends program here which is tough because you have the same amount of material to learn in less time. Most of the previous nights/weekends students have been workers (which is why the program started) and usually most go to part time or quit their job entirely. I think if you really want this, take a DEEP breath, and push forward you can survive nursing school and work. It is tough but doable. I am currently in my third class (having already taken Fundamentals and Pharmacology) and I know it will get tougher but just take it one day at a time.

4 kids and woking full time? God bless. The fact is that if I go for this I will put everything I have metally & physically into it and use every resource available to me. I will have to work full time - no doubt, but if it gets too tough I'll find a way of getting by with less income and tough it out until the end of the program. The program I'm looking at is only 13 months.

Specializes in ICU, Trauma, ER, Peds, Family Practice.

My experience in Catholic school was not a positive one. There was alot of psychological abuse. We did not have any of the arts and just some gym. The classes were very boring . My biology teacher would not approve me to take Chemistry which I needed as precollege course. She embarassed me in front of the class and told me that I would never be a nurse. The reason that she did not want to approve me for Chemistry is that I would kill the butterflys and pin them on a poster and bring to class like everyone else did. Me and my Mom started to cry when we had to do that. So I took pictures instead and brought pictures with the explanation of the species. Unacceptable to this woman. We all know how important our butterflys are to the planet. We had about 25 kids in that class we had to catch at least 10 butterflys. So 24 kids did that . Look at all the dead butterflys! Anyway , I transferred to public school and took my Chemistry and did well. Loved the labs. Took a course called Great Books and read the classics that I should have been reading in my other school. In fact I needed to catch up in most of my classes. So our Public school was much better than the Catholic school. They have since evolved. Thank goodness.

Nice to share experiences.

Paddlelady

whoneedsashotsaid? that was a perfect post.:bowingpur My school is the opposite of the original poster. The students come late all the time. Have cellphones going off. Texting in class my Lvn program is a joke. We are in our last semester and some students can't even take a B/P let alone know what b/P is they dont even know the blood flow of the heart. I would only let 2 students out of my whole class take care of me or my loved ones. I can see why schools are tough you are dealing with peolpes lives but my school doesnt seem to understand. All they understand is $$$$$

hahaha! i definitely feel you on this one. my school is a joke too. they are all about the money. luckily we have been blessed with a couple of good instructors who care about their students and do their best to help us understand the material so we can pass the class. although our school is such a joke, i would trust everyone in my class to take care of me and my loved ones.

btw i actually wished i was attending a school that was more like the thread starter's. i can definitely say that i'd be more knowledgeable and confident as a student.

to the thread starter: good luck with everything!

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