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Looking for RN to BSN Program w/certain criteria

Hello,

I am looking for an RN to BSN program that meets the following criteria:

1. Completely on line

2. ***Does NOT require College Algebra

3. Does have a clinical

4. Cheap.

These are ranked in order of importance (to me).

***Seems like many of the programs require college algebra. I HATE math with a flaming passion and don't want to do any more math coursework once I finish my statistics class (that I'm currently enrolled in).

Can anyone make any suggestions?

Thanks to all who respond.

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Do you mean does NOT have a clinical? I think having a clinical defeats the purpose of being completely online...

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I actually would like to have a clinical. This is because I would like to get PHN certification as well, and my state BON requires a clinical to grant this. So my wish list DOES have a clinical. I just want to do everything else online.

Good luck with the no algebra requirement. You might be able to test out of it, but you still need to demonstrate competence.

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I don't know of any BSN program where you don't have college algebra and/or Stats required.

I know a great online program, but it's not cheap (well known state university). It's 100% online if you already have passed the NCLEX-RN and completed an accredited program.

WGU has a community health practicum that meets PHN requirements for california. The rest is online and it's cheap. I haven't a clue if they require algebra tho. :)

My RN to BSN program is completely online and meets the PHN requirements for California. The "clinical" component is done through our place of employment. The graduation requirements state College Algebra, but on my transcript evaluation they used Statistics to satisfy the requirement. I never took College Algebra because I went straight into Calculus for my first undergrad degree, but I guess they credited Statistics instead of Calculus because I got a higher grade in it. My program certainly isn't cheap though. If I were you, I would look more into WGU's program. I would have gone with WGU myself if they weren't pass/fail. I want to continue on to grad school after my BSN and need the grades to boost my overall GPA.

There are a lot of WGU students posting "research" requests here-- if you think a poorly-constructed 10-question SurveyMonkey opinion poll of anonymous respondents from an internet community set up for entertainment and social interaction qualifies for a bona fide "master's capstone project," go for it. I wouldn't have any respect for it, though. Bah. Humbug.

  • Author

Thanks for the comments so far. I'm interested in any names of programs responders can provide. I am currently taking statistics, so that is not a problem. I just don't want to take college algebra. Honestly I've been an RN for 9 years working in critical care at a Level 1 trauma center and cannot see any need for it -- why do so many of the programs require it? Just to somehow lend "legitimacy," I imagine. I'd much rather take some more advanced science classes than more math, but then I have an extreme bias against math (and it against me!). I thought Ohio State was a good candidate (learned about it on this site), but even though it's a fully online program, they are only accepted students from five neighboring states. Frustrating! I will look into WGU, but need to research more about ramifications of pass/fail grading in case I later decide on grad school. Also, I intended to take a more meandering path through a program (i.e., one or two classes at a time) so that could get spendy. Again, thanks for the replies. Keep 'em coming, please!

I can't speak for all programs, but Algebra is required for any BS degree in our state universities - no exceptions. Even the BS in Fashion & textiles at TWU requires it. Aside from that, one of the factors that differentiates a BSN from ADN is the ability to understand, participate in and apply research (AKA evidence-based practice). This requires a basic understanding of statistical analysis, which requires Algebra.

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Thanks for your reply. I will keep looking. I have taken intermediate algebra, just not college algebra. I am nearly done with my statistics course and am getting an A so far. My statistics tutor, who has advanced degree in statistics, says nothing more than intermediate algebra is required as prerequisite for statistics and I have found this to be the case. There are lots of formulas and the algebra background has been handy, but I haven't felt any need for more algebra, in this class or in my career. But my question was not to incite a debate about merits of algebra. I'm sure there are many, but they are lost on me so I am trying to avoid the topic altogether!

I just don't want to take college algebra. Honestly I've been an RN for 9 years working in critical care at a Level 1 trauma center and cannot see any need for it -- why do so many of the programs require it? Just to somehow lend "legitimacy," I imagine.

Hmmm, wander over to the Student fora and check out the panicky "Help me with this calculation!" threads. You'll never wonder again. :)

I can't speak for all programs, but Algebra is required for any BS degree in our state universities - no exceptions. Even the BS in Fashion & textiles at TWU requires it. Aside from that, one of the factors that differentiates a BSN from ADN is the ability to understand, participate in and apply research (AKA evidence-based practice). This requires a basic understanding of statistical analysis, which requires Algebra.

You did finish reading her post to the end? You know, the part where it says she's enrolled in a statistics class?

In all honesty, college algebra is overrated. I took it back in high school as a sophomore. I thought most ADN programs require it but apparently they don't. Ours now requires statistics and college algebra is a requirement.

You do realize that a lot of associate degree schools are incorporating research into their programs? I think it is one of the requirements for NLNAC (I forget their new name) accreditation.

The true difference between an ADN and a BSN where I live? The BSN paid about 30,000-70,000 more for a bachelors degree instead of going the ADN route and then doing an RN to BSN program.

I am personally for streamlining college to help reduce costs.

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