Nurses Medications
Published Dec 30, 2004
kate_osb
1 Post
Hi everyone,
I work in a clinic where I give many intramuscular injections for sexually transmitted diseases. I am mainly giving either Penicillin or Ceftriaxone (Rocephin) IM. My nursing school training (finished 3 years ago!) teaches me to use the ventrogluteal site but I have some reservations...
From my experience, the ventrogluteal site is FAR more painful than the old dorsogluteal site. I was wondering if this is just my experience or if other people have found this? I find that anything more than 2mL can be very painful for my patients in the ventrogluteal site. I understand the proposed safety advantages of this site but I thing it is far outweighed by the discomfort. I think the muscles under this site are more tense and there is 'less room' for the injection to go causing more pain.
Several weeks ago a young patient with syphillis found her first IM penicillin shot given ventrogluteally exruciatingly painful and I wondered if she would ever return for her subsequent shots. She did, and I used the dorsogluteal site, which she still found painful but much better.
I now use both sites but always use the dorsogluteal for the ceftriaxone shots which patients seem to find particuarly painful.
Doing a literature search I can find many articles arguing that the ventrogluteal site is safer but can't find any research on patient pain.
What do you other thing?
-Kate
PMHNP10
1,041 Posts
Hi everyone,I work in a clinic where I give many intramuscular injections for sexually transmitted diseases. I am mainly giving either Penicillin or Ceftriaxone (Rocephin) IM. My nursing school training (finished 3 years ago!) teaches me to use the ventrogluteal site but I have some reservations...From my experience, the ventrogluteal site is FAR more painful than the old dorsogluteal site. I was wondering if this is just my experience or if other people have found this? I find that anything more than 2mL can be very painful for my patients in the ventrogluteal site. I understand the proposed safety advantages of this site but I thing it is far outweighed by the discomfort. I think the muscles under this site are more tense and there is 'less room' for the injection to go causing more pain.Several weeks ago a young patient with syphillis found her first IM penicillin shot given ventrogluteally exruciatingly painful and I wondered if she would ever return for her subsequent shots. She did, and I used the dorsogluteal site, which she still found painful but much better.I now use both sites but always use the dorsogluteal for the ceftriaxone shots which patients seem to find particuarly painful.Doing a literature search I can find many articles arguing that the ventrogluteal site is safer but can't find any research on patient pain.What do you other thing?-Kate
I typically use the ventrogluteal as much as possible, because of a couple reasons: 1. It's farther away from the sciatic nerve; 2. I believe there is a greater concentration of muscle in the area, hence better absorption than the dorsogluteal or delt site. As for pain, all of them hurt but I believe I remember that the vastus lateralis hurts the worst, and the delt should only be used for injections
Charge205
22 Posts
Have you ever tried Rocephin mixed with Lidocaine? Its less painful
jeepgirl, LPN, NP
851 Posts
I think its pretty standard to mix it, but you're right... you NEVER know...
ajtcsx
4 Posts
From a patient perspective I prefer to have all of my shots given in the dorsogluteal location. No way I would want it in the ventrogluteal location. Personal preference.
kids
1 Article; 2,334 Posts
And from this patient's perspective I'd rather have a more painful injection in a safer site. I've experienced nerve irritation from a DG injection, the pain can last for weeks, I'll never go through it again if it can be avoided.
VG site really should be less painful because it has a lower concentration of nerves.
To the OP, I realize you've been giving the injections on a regular basis for a while but I'd encourage you to review your landmarks and really think about needle placement.
I know that in my own practice I've developed habits over time that stray from from the optimal technique and have to take a step back and remember how to do it the 'right' way.
The antibiotics you're giving on a regular basis can be painful (even using Lido in rocephen). Just because you can inject >2cc in a site doesn't mean you have to, you might consider splitting the injection over two sites to give it more comfortably in the optimal location.
FORTHELOVEOF!!!!
299 Posts
I don't think it's possible to have a pain free shot of Rocephin, that stuff BURNS!!!