just venting. (long)

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I need to vent, but any constructive criticism would be appreciated.

I am an agency LPN, working a mainly at a LTC facility, which I really enjoy. Most staff is great, and treat me as one of their own. I've been on every unit except one, which I was assigned to today. Here begins my woes.

I took report from the 11-7 nurse, and began to get my cart ready. Checked out the accuchecks, started my med pass. I need to point out that at this facility, there's only one nurse assigned to unit, of approx 30 or so residents. There are usually 2 CNA's, and both were on today.

I began my med pass, with some 7AM meds that needed to be administered, and had no real trouble until I got to my second hallway. There, I had a resident that absolutely refused to take her meds from me because I was a man. She proceeded to yell at the top of her lungs that she didn't want a man anywhere near her. This woman is deemed capable, and seems to be fairly stable of mind. She's in the facility for gait disfunction. After later checking her chart, I saw that she's done this to several other nurses, all female, and has had several psych reviews, which deem her capable and of sound mind. She's not on any psych meds at all, just anti-htn's and diabetics.

I explained that I'm just administering her po meds, nothing invasive, nothing that requires me to see or touch any part of her anatomy that she may not want a man seeing or touching. Walked away after trying to give her the meds for the third time. At this point, every other resident in the hallway heard the commotion, and they all refused to take their meds also, as I was a man. They all suddenly wanted a female nurse. Again, I walked away, trying to give the situation a few minutes to calm down, and notified my sup. No other nurse was available to do my med pass, and frankly, I would have felt like a fool to ask one to finish it for me. After about ten minutes, I tried again, and was successful with the lady that began the rucus, after again explaining that it was a non-invasive procedure, just handing her the med cup and watching her take them. I had to continue this explaining all the way down the hall, and got done a 7 AM med pass at 10:45. It was "monkey see-monkey do" all the way down that hallway.

I got the rest of my med passes done on time, but was totally frustrated by this episode. Am I wrong to feel that I was not only unsafe, because of the time this took to accomplish--7-8 AM meds given out at 9-10 AM-- but also illegal, putting my license in jeopardy should anyone have reported this to the state? I have never, NEVER encountered anything like this before in my career, and although I did let my supervisor know the circumstances, still felt VERY uneasy. The resident later called her son, and blew the whole thing wayyyy out of proportion. I had witnesses of the CNA's, and documented factually what exactly occurred, and also called social services to speak to the resident.

Also, I made it known to both the sup and the scheduler, that should I enter the facility again, which I will be doing 5 days next week, and 5 the week after, and see my name posted to that unit, I'd be walking out and calling them from the parking lot to report off. I am serious, and would certainly carry thru on this. All other nurses are required to float, so there are other nurses that know that floor. The suggestion was actually made by another nurse (RN) to let the CNA's give these women their meds after I prepared them and put them in a med cup. NOT ON MY LICENSE! I was taught to administer only what I poured myself, and make sure the resident consumed the meds before charting that they were administered.

I am a team player, and have a good rapport with other staff at the facility, and certainly go the extra mile for them, by always being available and taking all shifts offerred, but I refuse to work that unit again, because I feel I can't be effective as a nurse, and may even put the residents in danger by not completing my med pass on time. Am I foolish to feel as I do, or justified should the situation arise again? Thanks in advance for letting me vent, and all constructive criticism will be taken into consideration and appreciated!

Specializes in geriatrics.

Boy do I know how that day went for you! This was an everyday occurence in Worthington,Ohio at the assisted living facility I worked for. The 3rd floor is Alzheimers and there were days when the chain reaction was endless. I was the ONLY nurse on the floor and after 8p I was responsible for the building next door as well that housed advanced Alzheimers residents. This tallied to 90 residents at one time.(unsure of the patient-nurse ratio in Ohio) A dementia res. and his wife roomed together on the 3rd floor and he accused me and others of not giving his wife her pills. Half the time he was in his room and she was wandering the halls so he didn't always see us give her the crushed pills . YET..he would call his son and tell him that he wasn't being treated right and he made numerous complaints that I wasn't spending enough time with him. Fact is, he was actually allowed to take his own meds,we just handed them to him.(With the time limit on a med pass I couldn't just stop and CHAT when he wanted and he found this offensive and threatened to have me fired. )I felt I was doing something wrong because he would often put them in his pocket and take them to his room. On numerous occassions the executive director would say *if you can't get them to take their pills let me know* I would let her know and she would take the pills from me and attempt to give them herself. Now, this woman has NO medical background and intimidated me into giving her the meds to give the residents. If I ever told her anything that would correct her if she were wrong about a res. medical condition I could expect a write-up soon thereafter! In the end, I was terminated. I was told to give the care managers the pills and let them try to give the meds,once again, the executive director told me to do this. The care managers in this facility aren't even state tested CNA's they are people who walk in off the street and decide they want to work in long term care! I have been a nurse for 14 years yet I was terminated for trying to do my job correctly! I could go on but I better not..Thanks for helping out!

Specializes in OB.

These women all have forms of dementia.. and I wonder if some of it too isnt the "old school" in them, thinking that only a woman should be a nurse. We have a wonderful male student in our class who gets nothing but grief from his grandpa for wanting to be a nurse, because in his day, real MEN did not become nurses.

Hang in there for one more moth, and hopefully your next facility will not be such a challenge!

I just wanted to thank everyone that shared similiar (and sometimes worse) stories. It's comforting to me to realize that other people have the same problems, and get thru them. I guess I needed validation for my feelings about not returning to that unit, and as usual, you guys and girls came thru! Thanks for being the supportive forum that I've become addicted to reading and participating in, and I'm PROUD to be a part of your ranks!

Specializes in ICU, ER, M/S, ORTHOPEDICS, UROLOGY.

I have done agency nursing and am now a travel nurse. I agree in requesting not to be placed on that unit again to prevent another bad experience. I agree with the previous post about just documenting the refusal if the patient is competant to refuse. This would prevent the whole unit from joining the "crazy train" and allow you to administer the medications to them in a timely manner. You can always attempt to readminister at the end of your initial med rounds. I doubt that your sex really had anything to do with it if she has done this before with female nurses. Documentation is the key to whatever you decide to do. Make sure and cont to keep your supervisor abreast of the situation. It may also help to notify the family of the incident as soon as possible to make sure both sides are heard. I think you handled this situation the best way you could at the time and should not feel at risk of any reports of inappropriate behaviour to the board. I would not leave the medications for the nursing assistants to give unless there is a facility protocal in place that has them trained in medication administration. That is not a delegatable tasks in my state. Just remember the 5 rights of medication administration as far as the state is concerned and if they were to come back during your rounds, explain that the unit as a whole can not suffer while you try to talk one angry patron done. Good luck to you in handling this situation if you encounter it again.:Melody:

Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

Oh wow! I have worked in an ALF with the same situation! I ask three times with a break, inform them of what I am doing and why these meds are important. If they continue to deny...I document that and move on! A patient has the right to decline any treatment or person doing it! So fine, I go with that, document and alert MD, family, and administration.

If they are really being angry or out of place about it...I go in with a witness! Just a safe thing to do for pt and YOU! I have them document and be available if I need them! Just a safe way to go! I do this with unstable patients all the time! Worth the wait, and I can justify this with lots of documentation that can't be denied by administration!

If you are to work with this facility again, administration must step in and help this issue. Basically it is sexual discrimination if they don't assist with this situation and still have you working there and having to abide by their rules and policies!

Also, and I don't mean to make this sound like you can't...but maybe a trusted CNA or other RN for that patient can speak to them (or admin really!!! Safest!) and find out just what their fears or anxieties are about with having a male nurse! It may give insite to what steps to take next ;)!

Heck, most of the nurses working at the facility I worked in were older than I by 15-20 years. The patients didn't trust me at all, since I didn't look "matronly" as they put it. After a while of lots of situations and upset...I became very trusted, and very very well liked! Took a while...but I did it! I did a LOT of active listening...that helped :).

Good luck to you..so very sorry that happened...and sadly I see this in these types of facilities with males, or anyone of another race or even religion (sometimes political status!!! OUCH!).

Stay true to yourself now...one pt does not a career make, and only makes you stronger I think...and believe me I best be pretty strong now! LOL!!!!!!

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