Isolating Demented Residents

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I've seen this time and again. My last place we had a woman who perseverated and stayed on the call light. I managed to calm her down, we got her Seroquel restarted, and the day before I was fired she wheeled up to me and said, "I feel safe when you're here." Of course, the aides and evening nurses started removing her call bell again (illegally) and this resulted in falls and fright for her, but hey - they didn't have to reassure her, or bring her to the common area to keep her from being lonely.

The new place, which is very good, has a resident who calls out, "Help me! Help meeeeee!" in a piercing, hog-calling voice. She's in a private room and is never brought out. Well, she CAN communicate a bit, although I have to lead her with questions and ystdy she had an actual complaint of a stomach ache. As soon as I left the room to check her standing orders she started yelling again. I returned to the room and reassured her that I was looking at her chart, which was in my hands. I then went out to pour the Maalox-equivalent and she started yelling again. I came back with the meds and smiled and told her we needed a little time. I gave her the Maalox and she immediately calmed and stopped yelling.

When I've tried to get her brought out from her room I've been told that her yelling upsets the other patients. Well, when we're right there we can reassure her and it stops - for a bit - instead of going on for two hours.

How do I get her reincorporated among the living without thoroughly pissing off my coworkers, including the charge?

Suggestions?

In Massachusetts, we NEVER are told when state is coming....

When my daughter was 3, they had a Halloween party at her school so we both dressed up. She was a fairy princess(of course...now she's 19 and still thinks she's a princess!) and I went as an old man. Everyone there really believed that her great grandfather had come to the party.

What an idea for a new career. Dress up like an old person and get admitted to different facilities to see how they treat their residents!

I couldn't get away with that. I'm 39, and I still get carded. Another way to get in is to volunteer for something. If they are reluctant to let you in or act uncomfortable, there might be a problem.

You got fired because you told someone that the others were taking the call lights away??? Clearly removing a call bell is neglect and should be reported to the DPH as such. I tried to fire someone because clearly he was incompetent...faxed labs to MDs in the middle of the night, didn't call a family member with a change in condition and the patient died before her husband knew, and gave insulin without a doctor's order. I was told by the regional nurse that I didn't have "enough on him' to fire him and she was afraid he'd 'pull the race card'....yikes...I guess it all depends who is in charge of the place.

Sometimes you have to 'piss off your co-workers' to do what is right for the patients. But, not everyone will benefit from being out where the action is.

Wow, I don't feel so bad, then - where I work removing a call lite would be grounds for firing - and they are very fussy about 'skin' issues. I see no reason why we can't have a few of the confused folk brought out to our dining room at night, which is right next to the nurses station, and is kind of where the night aides 'hang out' to do their between rounds chores.

We sit them at a table, give them a snack and some magazines, or let them help fold bibs for awhile. Then after a bit they're usually ready to go back to bed.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
I couldn't get away with that. I'm 39, and I still get carded. Another way to get in is to volunteer for something. If they are reluctant to let you in or act uncomfortable, there might be a problem.

:rolleyes: Jeez Squeaky....I had to wear a ton of makeup...latex glue with tissue paper stuck to my face to make the wrinkles ...in order to look old! People think I'm 35 now when I'm much older.

:uhoh21: MarjorieMac-nice concept to get all the resident to take an equal share or whatever you said, but we're talking about demented residents. You can't even get them to believe they're not in France never mind sharing their space with others.

I think I would have to wear a rubber wrinkled mask, a gray wig, and phony "bad teeeth".

I think I will get carded for the rest of my life. By the time I'm eligible for a senior citizens discount, I will have to prove I'm old enough.

:beercuphe I can see it now if some bar has senior discounts I will probably get carded to prove I'm 21, and to prove I'm old enough for the discount.

Who did you report it to? Is it still happening? It sounds like the resident has problems, and needs a way to call for help. I truly wish the state would do undercover inspections (disguised as a resident or new employee), and don't tell the facility when they're coming. I heard they do that in AZ.

The DON, the charge nurse, the nurse supervisor, and everyone on the floor the times it happened.

I don't know what's going on now. They fired me, remember? ;)

Specializes in Nursing assistant.

You lucky young looking things! They keep on trying to give me a senoir citizens discount. Bummer.

The DON, the charge nurse, the nurse supervisor, and everyone on the floor the times it happened.

I don't know what's going on now. They fired me, remember? ;)

Sorry, I must have missed that part. That isn't right, them firing you. They need the state on their ass. Taking the call bell away is flat out unsafe and abusive besides.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
You lucky young looking things! They keep on trying to give me a senoir citizens discount. Bummer.

:roll don't want to change the subject, but the BEST was when my EX husband (yucko) asked me if the stores asked me if I wanted a senior discount. It seems they ask him all the time and he is only 3 months older than I am!!!

HA! I told him..they NEVER ask me.

:roll don't want to change the subject, but the BEST was when my EX husband (yucko) asked me if the stores asked me if I wanted a senior discount. It seems they ask him all the time and he is only 3 months older than I am!!!

HA! I told him..they NEVER ask me.

Quite a few years ago, maybe 20-25 years, my mom was in a store with a friend who was three months younger than she was. The store clerk asked my moms friend if my mom was her daughter. My moms friend didn't like that.

Specializes in nursing home care.

I think that it is often more orientated residents who cause others to be isolated or our perceptions of what the more orientated residents can put up with.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

As harsh as it sounds, sometimes the rights of the many overrule the rights of the few...or one. If you have a 40 bed dementia unit and 1 resident is hollering at the top of his lungs, you certainly must consider the other 39 residents as well and bring the one person hollering to a quiet place. It may calm THEM down and will certainly decrease the anxiety caused to the many other residents. Being in a large group of people is NOT a normal activity for most people. If we are trying to make facilities as home like as possible, having large groups of people won't do it. No one ever said this was easy.

Well, here is something I'll share with everyone. I've shared this alot over the years. It's just a simple saying on a wooden plak.

I expect to pass through this world but once;

And any good thing,therefore,that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any fellow creature,

let me do it now;

Let me not defer or neglect it,

For I shall not pass this way again.

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