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I agree with commuter. My only concern with it would be that they are not allowed to smoke on the patio when having it. Heard a story long ago about an LTC patient who had whisky every night and one day started himself on fire...don't even know if it's true but with dinner I'd have no issues giving it to them at all.
AT our facility, the residents are not allowed to smoke. Those that come to us as smokers are immediately put on a smoking cessation program. We also don't allow the resident to move about the facility with the alcohol, they know they must stay in their rooms and enjoy their "treat". We have many other residents that are there for alcohol related dementia and the smell of alcohol on someone else would put these other people in a tail spin, I'm afraid.
I completely understand your concerns, especially give his DX of ETOH related dementia but as the others have already mentioned with a MD order your covered. Even here in PA with our strict state guidelines in LTC we too with a MD order can administer ETOH. My concerns are with those family members who are not aware of the legal obligations we have to their love ones we have, take them out on LOAS and give them ETOH! Then bring them back and I have to give them meds as ordered. I know they have had ETOH I can smell it. I then have to call the MD and inform them. Which is usually a MD on call who doesnt know the resident and get orders to hold specific meds. I think if the families realized the significants of this they may reconsider their decision. I mean I end up holding stuff like coumadin, B/P meds and much needed pain relieving narcotics. Just for a couple glasses of wine. I don't think the wine is worth it.
At our facility, we have a resident that has an MD order for ETOH (Mr. Boston's Vodka to be specific), I never question giving it. I mean, if you have alcohol induced dementia then there is a serious addiction and if the ETOH is withheld then you are increasing the possibilities of something bad to happen. The MD only has ordered enough to maintain a level of ETOH in the blood to keep away withdrawal symptoms/DT's, not enough to get them drunk or keep them drunk.
Peds_Nurse
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Hello all...
I have a question about our scope of practice as an LVN/LPN. As a fairly new nurse, I am concerned about dispensing alcohol to patients. I work LTC and we have a patient that is getting alcohol with meals and we, nurses, are expected to dispense it to the patient.
We do have a physicians order for the booze, but I've never heard of this and am afraid that this might not be legal. Is it? Does anyone have any information or know where I can find out about this discreetly?
I don't want to divulge to much info, just that it's an LTC patient, I'm an LVN, and live in CA.
The patient's primary diagnosis is Alcohol induced Dementia and he is an elder.
Any info would help...Am I worrying for no reason? Or what?