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Is this a HIPAA violation?

I have always thought that if it is not your patient's chart, you cannot legally be in it, unless you are rendering some type of care ie. passing a med to help another nurse catch up, starting an IV, etc.

At previous institutions, particularly a very prestigious one that I worked at, audits were run. If your name popped up as accessing an electronic chart, and you did not have a clear role, there would be an inquiry of why you were there, and you would be terminated for just nosing around.

a few of my coworkers are completely paranoid, and very concerned with what the other nurses write in their notes. I have a feeling that they use them as a reference in case their own notes are called into question. A couple of them go through every patient's chart and see what we are saying in our PIE notes. Last night, I held a med due to patient request, and documented the reason why in my note and another nurse brought it up and why what I did was wrong. What I really want to say is get the hell out of my chart, what I do or do not do is between me and the patient and the physician.

My nurse manager knows that this goes on, as one of them prints out the notes to tattle every morning.

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    My nurse manager knows that this goes on, as one of them prints out the notes to tattle every morning.

    Are you saying an RN goes into the chart of a patient for whom she/he is not providing care, prints out another nurse's notes and then runs with them to the NM? If this happened in my hospital, that nurse would be shown the door faster than a....well, right away. I can't even believe that a NM would allow one of their nurses to get away with something so petty and so obviously a HIPAA violation.

    As for the nurse who looked in your MAR...I would politely tell her that the circumstances are none of her business...she is not owed further explanation other than that.

    Finally, what do you mean by using other nurse's notes as a "reference" if their own notes are called into question? No nurse has a right to open a chart just to see how another nurse does it, let alone to use this as a chance to "get" another nurse for a note they find suspect.

    If your NM does not act on this behavior I would consider going to risk management about this.

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    Yep, the risk management office would be very interested in this. If you think reporting it would get you in trouble, make an anonymous report.

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    Talk to risk management. Find out if you can do this anonymously first. They might act professionally if you boss won't.

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