Interview etiquette for finding out the pay!!!

thrumylense · Mar 25, 2009

Amen to post #!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yeah:

the interview is definitely a 2 way street. You as the interviewe are also deciding if you want to "hire" them!!!

Be confident at your interview...sell yourself! That makes a hugh difference.

thrumylense · Mar 25, 2009

I was refering to post #12....

thrumylense · Mar 25, 2009

I appologize if I walked into a tpoic that was primarily new grads.....That said, STILL sell yourself!....radiate with confidence....not arrogance, though.:wink2:

XYnurse2B · Mar 26, 2009

I appologize if I walked into a tpoic that was primarily new grads.....That said, STILL sell yourself!....radiate with confidence....not arrogance, though.:wink2:

NO reason to apologize. We new grads need and appreciate the sage advise of you experienced RN's. :bow:

Regardless of the fact that I have a good amount of work experience prior to nursing, this is a whole new world!

Lots of things of course carry over from any profession/industry, but there are some aspects of the medical field that this newbie is in the dark about. :coollook:

Bring on the advice...I have my salt shaker here:wink2:

meluhn · Mar 26, 2009

I can understand wanting to know the pay before you accept a job especially if you are willing to relocate. HR people should just cut us a break and tell us at the interview. Why do they feel the need to make us squirm?

lamazeteacher · Mar 26, 2009

Nursing has been the only occupation/profession that hides salary ranges. I've worked places where you will be fired if you tell anyone what you make!

Tell the NLRB (National Labor Relations Board) what happens in that regard, anonymously. They can make the difference, however change comes slowly.

LuLu2008 · Mar 26, 2009

I have been on the other side of the desk, hiring people (but not for nursing). I thought it was good to bring up pay early before interviewing because some people didn't want to apply for the job unless we could meet their minimum salary requirement, and that way nobody's time was wasted. But with nurses and with this economy I agree with the points made above, because this market has changed.

86toronado, BSN, RN · Mar 26, 2009

I have to disagree with all those who say it is unprofessional to bring up pay at the interview. I think it is unprofessional not to. That's what the interview is for, the company wants to learn about you, but they also want you to learn about them. If don't bring up pay, I will bring it up, and expect a straight answer. I'm not going to pretend I want to work for the love of going to work, I want to work to get paid!

lamazeteacher · Mar 26, 2009

I can understand wanting to know the pay before you accept a job especially if you are willing to relocate. HR people should just cut us a break and tell us at the interview. Why do they feel the need to make us squirm?

The reason for witholding the amount paid, is not to make you squirm, it's to hire someone with the best credentials for the least money. Hospitals and HH agencies are afraid that their long term employees will demand higher pay, if they know that newly hired personnel make more than they do. It's a dictatorship in the worst way, as information witheld, is controlling employees who might leave if they knew they could make more money at a more competitive salary elsewhere; and so they are kept in the dark.

Fear motivates many employees to stay in low paying positions longer than they might. By keeping prospective employees dangling, it establishes who is in power. When/if the interviewee is hired and comes to work there, they leave their salary negotiation rights at the door, unless a union exists at that place. Then they'll have to trust that the union will work for them, and not also be beholden through earlier wins/losses.

So the carrot being held out, is the job; and who gets it, will be meeker, least potentially troublesome candidates. :saint:

86toronado, BSN, RN · Mar 26, 2009

"When/if the interviewee is hired and comes to work there, they leave their salary negotiation rights at the door, unless a union exists at that place. Then they'll have to trust that the union will work for them, and not also be beholden through earlier wins/losses."

I guess that's why the union facilities that I interviewed at were the only ones who handed me their pay scale on paper when I walked in the door. Interesting.

cornpoohRN · Mar 26, 2009

I graduate in May and interviewed this week for a residency program but there were no HR reps present. I did not bring up compensation because I really want the job! It is "the" place to work as far as I am concerned and when (I am trying to be confident not arrogant) they make me an offer for a job I am sure the pay rate will surface.

As far as residency programs go; with new grads.....does anyone think that there is a "one rate" or haggling can be done? I personally believe that as competitive as these programs are there is no room for haggling..........just curious:jester:.

Mookie427 · Mar 27, 2009

I have no clue as to what geographic area you plan on being a nurse, BUT even though there is a shortage, new grad jobs are hard to come by in certain areas of this country. :banghead: Why dont you concentrate on GETTING a job, and let the salary take care of itself as you progress in skills. Here in South Florida there is a virtual unwritten rule that most jobs - even those at nights on med/surg - wont be available to a new grad. Sorry to sound harsh, but you need to prioritize. And if there are 2 of you as your intro states, then when you both land jobs (and dont expect a package deal at a hospital), then you will have 2 salaries to live off of.