I am starting my second semester of an RN program right now, the families semester. I'm really excited to start the semester, as I am becoming an RN on my way to become a lactation consultant, and this is my area of interest. One thing I am very concerned about, though, is that I will possibly be involved in the practice of infant circumcision. I am morally opposed to this, and I don't think I can be involved in such a thing. I know you have to put your own feelings aside sometimes in nursing, like if you are caring for a patient that does something you disagree with, like taking drugs while pregnant, and I think I will be able to take care of someone like that, even if I dislike it, because I am simply doing my job of providing them with nursing care. For me, I feel different about infant circumcision, because I would actually be involved in the procedure that I am against. Anyone know if we normally have to see/participate in infant circumcision during nursing school?
I can see both sides of this one. It's cultural and traditional, but you're cutting nerve endings in a place where the kid will want them later in life.
That's your opinion. I think this post should be moved, I know and have talked to grown males who were adamant that they were happy to be circumcised and not a one of them has ever said "I just can't feel enough with my member" or anything along those lines. I wouldn't date an uncircumcised male, like Elaine on Seinfeld said - "they just don't have any personality"
...but again, this is not the right forum for this, and people browsing 'General Nursing Student' shouldn't have to get annoyed reading this stuff.
You've said that moms are ignorant, America is ignorant, doctors are ignorant, nurses are ignorant, and finally, implied all of the above are uneducated if they would circumcise a male...
because someone prefers something that you don't does not make them ignorant or uneducated.
And why is it right for a parent to force their sexual preference on their son? It shouldn't be about preference since parents don't have sex with their son....and the only reason why American parents prefer a circ'ed member over an intact one is because it's what we're used to. Aside from when their son(s) is a day or 2 old, not many American parents know what an intact member looks like and know that's what a member is suppose to look like. I think if a parent doesn't like an intact member, don't sleep with one....leave your sons member out of it. Parents should research such topics instead of pushing their beliefs on their kids. A few years back these parents got into trouble because they tattooed their young son.....we're hypocrites if we allow genital mutilation but not tattooing....afterall, a tattoo is a parents preference.
Data from a national survey conducted from 1999 to 2002 found that the overall prevalence of male circumcision in the United States was 79%.
8 in 10 males in this country are circumcised. Making a big deal about it on a maternity floor and refusing to help with the procedure seems ridiculous to me.
Do you also think it's ridiculous for someone to refuse to help during a female circ??
Based on your handle, I'm not at all surprised you take this stance on these issues. I'm assuming you're all about medication free home birthing as well?
I have to agree with the previous poster who said you're basically call everyone who doesn't agree with you ignorant, which I promise you isn't the case. Guess what? I did all the same research you did when I decided to start a family, and guess what? I came to many different conclusions. If you want to be crunchy, all natural, no vaccinations, no circumcisions, no western medicine, etc. etc. etc. that is your right. But guess what? There is a lot of information out there that refutes the anti-hospital birthing, anti-vaccine, anti-everything medical approach to having babies and to be honest with you, I think it's overwhelmingly in favor of the medical community.
I personally prefer to act on science and take advantage of the leaps and mounts medicine has made in the last century and that includes vaccinating our children against deadly diseases, having babies in hospitals to increase a good outcome in the event that an unforseen emergency comes up, and medication to ease that pain of childbirth. (Hey- I take a Tylenol when I have a headache too)
I'm on the fence with the circ issue- I see both sides of this to be honest with you. My final decision was allowing my husband to make the choice. He has a member, I don't. He was totally in favor of it. That is what tipped the scale. Don't assume people who choose circ don't do their homework just because they don't side with your 'crunchy' view.
I'm curious how you feel about piercing a baby girls ears. Is that not mutilation?
I'm not commenting on all your assumptions about me....that could take all day. I will stick to the topic at hand...we're talking about circumcision. I'm glad you claimed to have done the research...that's great! But you still left the decision up to your husband? For the simple fact that he's the one with the member?? OMG! Of course he's going to be all for it....he's most likely a circ'ed American and doesn't know any different. Did you happen to show him any information and/or have him watch a video on how it's done? Just because a man has a member, doesn't mean he's qualified to make such a decision. So if your daughter needs any kind of surgery on her female parts, you won't involve your husband at all because you're the one with the same parts? Crazy! And no, I don't think ear piercing is right either....not my ears not my choice. If/when my daughter wants her ears done, I'll take her to get them done. Although circ'ing is a much more life changing event then ear piercing....doesn't compare.
That's your opinion. I think this post should be moved, I know and have talked to grown males who were adamant that they were happy to be circumcised and not a one of them has ever said "I just can't feel enough with my member" or anything along those lines. I wouldn't date an uncircumcised male, like Elaine on Seinfeld said - "they just don't have any personality"
...but again, this is not the right forum for this, and people browsing 'General Nursing Student' shouldn't have to get annoyed reading this stuff.
Actually it's not an opinion....20,000 nerve endings are lost during a circ, along with many other functions of a normal member. And great...your friends think they're fine. But in reality, they've lost a lot. Of course they don't know any different. Speak with someone who had a sex life while intact, then circ'ed. Or speak with a man who was circ'ed then restored his foreskin. You'll get a different reality then when asking guys who have been circ'ed their whole life. Think of how different of an experience you would have with 20,000 nerves gone from your privy parts. About not dating an intact man...that's wonderful. As they say, a foreskin is a shallow woman filter. :)
Actually it's not an opinion....20,000 nerve endings are lost during a circ, along with many other functions of a normal member. And great...your friends think they're fine. But in reality, they've lost a lot. Of course they don't know any different. Speak with someone who had a sex life while intact, then circ'ed. Or speak with a man who was circ'ed then restored his foreskin. You'll get a different reality then when asking guys who have been circ'ed their whole life. Think of how different of an experience you would have with 20,000 nerves gone from your privy parts. About not dating an intact man...that's wonderful. As they say, a foreskin is a shallow woman filter. :)
You are also speaking a lot on opinion. I knew one guy that I was friends with in high school that was from a different country and chose to have an adult circumcision and said it was the best choice he had ever made. I also know an gentleman in his fifties that also had it done because he was diabetic and was constantly having yeast infections which he was having a hard time controlling and finally decided to do it and was very happy with the decision and was shocked on how quick it had been and relatively painless. Neither of are men so neither of us can say how it changes the feeling of sex.
Fact of the matter it's a personal decision and not yours or mine to be judgemental about either way. If you as a nurse do have a very strong opinion on it then thats something you will have to take into account when deciding on a job just the same as people that are opposed to other medial procedures that are legal. There's nothing wrong with having your own opinion on things but if you want people to respect yours then you must respect others that are different.
I suppose it can be very difficult to have to hold a baby down during the procedure. I circumcised my son...but I had the option of him being given pain medications...so he felt nothing...they are little but they still feel pain so I am glad the hospitals in Canada recognize that fact....if I remember correctly he was actually put out during the procedure. ...when he came back he was very groggy but recovered quickly....wasn't fussy afterwards
Intact member is offensive? WOW. That doesn't even make any sense. A circumcised member doesn't have all the parts, so it's not fully intact. A member which has not had any parts removed is intact. It's not a jab, it's just a fact. Is natural member better?
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That's your opinion. I think this post should be moved, I know and have talked to grown males who were adamant that they were happy to be circumcised and not a one of them has ever said "I just can't feel enough with my member" or anything along those lines. I wouldn't date an uncircumcised male, like Elaine on Seinfeld said - "they just don't have any personality"
...but again, this is not the right forum for this, and people browsing 'General Nursing Student' shouldn't have to get annoyed reading this stuff.