Published Apr 1, 2011
futurestudent11
7 Posts
Why are so many students having to take pre-reqs unless applying for Bsn? In my area no ADN programs require any pre-req classes.
CNM2B201?
355 Posts
does your school require them as co reqs then??
most schools that have no pre reqs are private LPN schools...otherwise if a program doesnt list pre reqs then they are usually co reqs to be taken at the same time as your core nursing classes.
we have pre reqs for 2 reasons.
1. determines who will get in or not based on your gpa
2. because nursing classes are tough enough w/out adding A&p to the mix..
~Mi Vida Loca~RN, ASN, RN
5,259 Posts
I am confused, you are saying they have to take pre-reqs unless applying for a BSN? (so stating those applying for a BSN are not needing to take pre-reqs) but than you saying that none of the ADN require pre-req classes either.
So none of these programs require Pre-Reqs?
In my program currently and the school I did majority of my pre-reqs at, both required a fair amount of pre and co-reqs.
Their are a few different BSN programs I have seen as well, ones that has all the pre reqs incorporated into the program and ones that you do the pre- reqs before.
From that I have seen other types of BSN programs as well. Accelerated, RN-BSn.
I believe it may be based soley on HS gpa and TEAS a&p is part of the nursing curriculum for the ADN. However, they require 2.0 from post secondary courses if you have taken any. I thought it was interesting.
so what are your other co reqs besides AP? I havent seen any RN programs that dont require at least some pre reqs. Ive also never heard or seen one that based admission off a H.S. gpa.
would you mind sharing the name of the school..id just like to actually see what classes they require and the nursing classes.
mangopeach
916 Posts
I'm in an ADN program and I've never heard of an ADN program that did not have pre-reqs. Not saying they dont exist, but I think that this is probably an exception to the norm. In both states that I've lived in, all RN programs whether BSN or ADN have pre-reqs.
Personally I would hate to take A&P alongside nursing classes. Yikes! I'm in my first semester of nursing school and its busy and a lot of work. A&P takes up a lot of study time as well for most students. With lab,checkoffs,clinicals- doing A&P at the same time is not something I would want. I'm glad that all I have to do right now is focus on nursing.
Hmm.. I may have to call the schools to make sure but according to course planner micro a and p etc. are taken with nursing classes. This is for ADN.
what about english and psych classes? nutrition...these are all very common in ADN programs...if they are having you take ALL these with your nursing classes..I would be wary... they would have to have a low retention rate OR a very sub par program..because cramming in all those classes with nursing classes is just asking for trouble. I would look at their pass rates for nclex, and retention rates... something sounds off about all of this...especially the H.S. gpa ...ive never heard of that being used to admit someone to a nursing program.
Are these science classes with labs? Geez, man I would hate to have to do that alongside nursing lectures,labs,clinicals and getting ready for the chopping block, I mean checkoffs. LOL.
Mezabeth
43 Posts
The school I am going to (adn) has the classes listed as co reqs. However, you can't get in unless you have taken them first and then you have to do a weighted admission form. I don't know why they have it listed that way because it makes no sense.. it makes me wonder if your school does it the same way. What is the name of your school?
The school is called orangeburg calhoun technical college http://www.octech.edu the nclex passing rate is pretty high.
Thats a very interesting program. This is my first time seeing anything like that. I just worry though that it will be too much at once. Nursing school is a lot of work, I know you probably hear people say that all the time and I used to think folks were exaggerating until I started nursing classes. Don't get me wrong. Its doable, but time management is crucial. There's just so much to do, I'm not getting why they chose to do it this way. But maybe its set up differently though to make it more manageable. For instance I noticed that Fundamentals is 3 credits. I'm in my first semester of nursing school right now and I'm taking Fundamentals and its 8 credits so perhaps its not as detailed or intense? I dunno, because I also see that the lab portion is 9 credits. We don't get credit for lab. The 8 credits are divided into 5 for lecture and 3 for clinicals. We still have to go to lab to learn skills and checkoff on those skills though.
Thats a mighty full schedule. When would you start clinicals? Also the passing is 80%, not uncommon for nursing school. My school its 75% but I know some others its 80% and someone posted recently that their school is 85%. The lowest grade I've made on a nursing exam is 84, all my other grades have been in the 90's so its not impossible to meet an 80%. But even in my program with passing at 75, some people fail out or just on the bubble.
I'm a full time student in the truest sense. I don't work, not married, no boyfriend, no kids or pets to worry about so all my focus is on school.Still I would be very reluctant to do Nursing fundamentals, clinicals along with all those other classes. This is certainly interesting.