I am a US BSN graduate but I have been deported due to my family's immigration case.

[mo0nlessnights]

Hello everyone, im new to the site and this is my first posting. I have been living in the United States since I was 5 years old and I am 23 now. I graduated from UNLV on August 2008. A week after, immigration came to my house and arrested me and my family for overstaying our visa's. I spent two months in jail before finally being deported. I do not blame my family for my unfortunate situation. Even though I had nothing to do with the case since I was a minor at the time, I was labeled a fugitive and as a result have been exiled for ten years. I love my family, they put me through school and now that I have finished, I am their only hope left.

We are living in the Philippines now and im still trying to adjust. I was planning on taking the NCLEX here but realized that it was only good for the US. I plan to relocate to Canada to work as an RN over there but I do not even know where to start. If anyone has information and is willing to share please do so. I am stuck in a rut and am in need of some real help. Thank you all for your time and God Bless. I do not have readily available internet access as I must go to cafes to log in so I may not respond right away. Thank you all again for your help.

Jione

[suzanne4, RN]

Police clearances are also required anytime anyone has spent more than six months in a country. This is going to be needed as well and will show up on their documents.

If one attends school here and does not have the proper documentation then they can get in big trouble and unfortunately we have seen it happen over and over again. Attending school here does not make one immune from being deported from the US. If they attended, and not saying that they should have; then smartest move would have been to leave the US as soon as they were out of school and apply for licensure from out of the country and without a SSN# that usually would not be legal. They then could have gone thru the process of going thru Consular Processing and more than likely would have been able to enter the US again.

Now they are in a real pickle for more than ten years and most other countries are not going to take them with a landed immigrant visa.

Let this be a warning to others that are in the same predicament; either consult with an attorney to get things taken care of before 21 or leave the US immediately as soon as studies are completed.

It is much too late to even try anything once you have been deported.

[Holyhell]

Nevada Board of Nursing link: http://www.nursingboard.state.nv.us/

[suzanne4, RN]

Yes, it is not needed. I am very aware of the fact that the SSN# is not needed for most states to write the NCLEX exam. But you are entirely missing the point and that is that they would have submitted the application before they graduated as that is what most students do here in the US.

The issue is also that the majority of the states here also do not issue a license if one cannot provide a SSN# to them that is valid and legal.

That is what caused their problem. But that is a moot point now since they have been deported and a police clearance is required for them before they can go to any country with a landed immigrant visa.

Being able to write the NCLEX exam is not going to solve any problems once one is deported. There is nothing that can correct that or have them gain entry into most other countries with immigrant status or to be able to work there.

This is what I am trying to explain to you. I also set up this international forum several years ago for the most part so I am quite familiar with what goes on in the US in terms of immigration as well as licensure. Once one is deported from the US, they are in a real bind. And especially if it is for ten years and not the three years that some get. The government was truly trying to get their point across.

[suzanne4, RN]

And there is no requirement for any state that you must go thru that state for licensure if you attended school there. No such thing and have never, ever seen that to be the case with any state here in the US.

Not sure where you went to school, but these are things that should have been covered in your program; not what you are posting.

There is much that you can learn by both reading here and in the Canadian forum if that is where you wish to work. But I would most definitely take the time reading before doing anything else. There is actually information that you truly need to be aware of, but it is apparent that you are not.

[Kosmonavt]

We understand that mo0nlessnights is in trouble. There is no need to say that over and over again. What is the solution? How she can get licensed in Canada?

[suzanne4, RN]

That is the problem, she cannot at this time. Does not matter that she wishes to go for licensure in Canada and be able to work there. The issue is not even the license, and for that she would have to take and pass the NCLEX as a start. She will not be able to get a satisfactory police clearance, and that is needed for any immigration procedures. For any country, not just the US or Canada. That is where 100% of the problems are.

Unfortunately, when one gets deported for overstaying a visa, there is not much else that any other country will be willing to do. There was a five year period where things could have been done, but it is past that now. And when one is in immigration detention, they have to go for hearings in front of an immigration judge. The immigration detention centers are attached to federal prisons here in the US and are essentially a prison. One does not get to chose their cellmate, and everything must be paid for by them. It is not like the federal prison where the government pays for things. At times, one will get a three year ban, we see that quite a bit; but when it is the maximum of ten years, then the judge was upset about something. Otherwise you do not usually see this. There had to have been other issues as well.

The US is trying to make a point here. Why she was chosen with her family, no idea; none of us will ever know that. But any country that requires a police clearance is not going to get a satisfactory one based on overstaying the visa and being deported for ten years. Consider it like getting a maximum sentence for something; the only way or reason that one gets the maximum is that someone was upset about something. They are usually more lenient than that. There is much more to this story than we will ever know or that we would want to see poster here by the original poster. It could come back at them to cause issues for them later on.

Overstaying even one day now on a visa is grounds to get deported; overstaying for this many years and then other issues become part of it such as working here without valid document to do so, etc.

Even with people being concerned, this is something that she is going to have to deal with in her home country at this time.

[suzanne4, RN]

And for others that are reading here and wondering how immigration does things here. Here is the perfect explanation.

Chances are extremely high that submitting for a license caused the problem as a start as more than likely it was a SSN# that was given to her by her parents years ago that was used. States are running these numbers, and we are seeing more and more of it. Each and every new grad that we have seen get deported has been picked up a week after they have graduated; this is most definitely not the first person but exactly the same as the others.

When one is taken to immigration detention, they are usually given the option of leaving voluntarily and then there are no charges brought up against them and this is what many do. They see the judge and agree to leave. When they are not given this option to begin with, it tells me that their were other issues involved. And when they get the maximum of the full ten years that the judge can deport for rather than the usual three years, that also says that there were other issues that came up.

One instance that would cause problems would cause problems would be getting federal student loans when they did not qualify for them, or working while they have been living here all of these years. Getting deported is considered a crime and shows up on any police record thereby putting a damper on any hopes to go to a country that requires a police clearance and this is almost every single one that I know of when one is wishing for landed immigrant status, or even a visa just to work there.

Let this serve as proof as to what we have been stating here all along, the US federal government will deport; they do not care that someone just spent all of that money to go to school here, it does not matter to them. Even overstaying a visa by one day, can be cause to be picked up and sent to immigration detention; these guys are not fooling around and you are placed in a jail cell. They are quite serious and this is nothing to laugh at or try to get out of.

[mo0nlessnights]

I just wanted to take the time and thank everyone for their time and information. So it seems I really cant do anything with my degree at the moment, which is really a shame.

I worked really hard, I guess that Sigma Theta Tau membership was a waste. = (

To answer some of your questions, I found out about my status during my final semester of nursing school. I told my parents I needed to send fingerprints in to take the exam. The revelation that I did not have status came as a shock. Suffice to say, my last semester was quite stressful. I was afraid to speak to attorneys because I did not want to put my family at risk, so I was stuck between a rock and a hard place. When I was detained, I never had the chance to speak to a judge.

Ah, I dont know what else to say but I wont lose hope or give up on nursing. Although I am feeling pretty choked up right now.

Thank you all again for your time. Please pray for me as I am in real need.

God Bless you all! = )

The Lord gives and the Lord takes away; blessed be the name of the Lord.

Oh btw, im a guy!

[HM2VikingRN, RN]

Hang in there....I don't know your story but I hope that you can resole your legal status so you can enter practice.

[Interested Party]

We will pray that the Lord will resolve you issues. Be prepared in case life in the US or Canada are not the places that the Lord has for you. Stay strong. Seek His wisdom at all times.

Yeah, I figured you are a guy from your first post.

[suzanne4, RN]

Please be aware that when one is deported from the US, then they cannot get a satisfactory police clearance and this is needed for most other countries as a start. A local license is also required as well.

The point that we are trying to make here is that we get posters from time to time that have been deported because of not having documentation when they applied for licensure and they all got deported one week after the graduation date. Each and every state is going over every piece of information that is submitted to them with a fine tooth comb.

And immigration officials from many other countries read here as well.

Internet is also not as anonymous as one might think either.

[Fiona59]

Canada is DIFFERENT from the US. We are not the "easy" way back into the US.

People actually make the choice to work and live here. Some even like it.

What I guess I'm trying to say is many Canadians are tired of being used as a stepping stone country by overseas workers.

Security clearances are required to work here, so a deportation order will show up.