I am tired of this attitude

Bonnie Nurse · Nov 30, 2009

This statement it totally unrelevant to the topic being discussed.

This statement just tries to express the idea that if the nurse looks after her/his needs first, then good patient care will follow. If you're a square peg trying to fit yourself into a round hole, you're not doing and being all you can. If you find your niche, you'll make the most of it because you'll be happy.

Blackheartednurse · Nov 30, 2009

I had a nurse told me that she was outright bitter that some people could get their BSN in anywhere from 11-16 months when she had to work so hard to get her ADN. My question is are some nurses really BITTER because someone else achieved much more than they did in a much shorter than they did?

And if those nurses are indeed "bitter" it is quite understandable on their part,please for one minute place yourself in their shoes..just imagine this scenerio,you have been working for a long time and you busted yout butt to excell in your work,satisfy your clients and your boss to be recognized....praised..everyone who have put in many years of of hard work for some job seek appreciation..and now imagine this some young,full of himself,know it all young punk comes along and because he got his Master right out of school but yet has ZERO experience in the field now he is your boss and is telling you what to do....where is the fairness and sense in that?? Really maybe at other jobs this tactic is quite logical (fresh minds bring fresh ideas with them) but in Nursing experience counts the most,not some 4 year long naive theory that us nothing like a real world of nursing..Does this foolnishness happens,you betcha..I personally know a chick who right out of school became a nursing manager at a hospital just because she finished her Masters at some prestigious private school,and I dont feel a drop of jelously for her but I just think of it as quite illogical move/decision. Before eating me, no I'm not an "old" nurse with tons of experience I'm actually a newbie who is just starting her career in nursing.

Blackheartednurse · Nov 30, 2009

I beg to differ. Those nurses who were good at their jobs, but who did not get pain meds to your son on time were not 'good'.

She didnt mean to run across Chatty Kathy,she meant a decent,polite behavior,just to be acknowledged by a nurse coming in to care for her son.

Blackheartednurse · Nov 30, 2009

And this is relevant to my post how?
I don't think 17 years of experience gives you the right to judge others or the ability to read their minds.
No, you expressed it. That's what I was addressing.
That means that if you were being sincere and not just bitter, you'd recognize that if you really cared, you'd be more inclined to help spark people's interest than turn people away. Let me know if I was not clear.
No I will not trust you... Moreover, the market for nurses is far better than for most other careers.
OK. You seem like a real people person. I can see how necessary it really is. Are you this nice with your patients?

Oh boy,you are really for some rude awaking.

emt2rn82 · Nov 30, 2009

I have to agree with you. I hear it all the time at work and people just wanted to put in their 1 year of ICU experience just to get into the CRNA course. It happens most of the time on the unit I came from. It was quite sad to me that people went to nursing school not for the patients and the care, the giving, the empathy that a nurse gives, but in it for the moeny that comes with being an advanced nurse, This almost sickeneds me. Sorry about my rant.

Emile · Nov 30, 2009

Blackheart I don't know about where you are from, but just so you know people have to work hard to earn higher degrees, and people who earn them should be rewarded.I understand that nursing is one of the very very few professions that doesn't require a BS as entry level, so therefore all the nurses with lesser degrees think it's ok to bash those with advance degrees and vast knowledges from previous careers. Today education is accessible more than ever before, if you feel threatened by someone with an advance degree just earn one yourself.

Scrubby · Nov 30, 2009

And if those nurses are indeed "bitter" it is quite understandable on their part,please for one minute place yourself in their shoes..just imagine this scenerio,you have been working for a long time and you busted yout butt to excell in your work,satisfy your clients and your boss to be recognized....praised..everyone who have put in many years of of hard work for some job seek appreciation..and now imagine this some young,full of himself,know it all young punk comes along and because he got his Master right out of school but yet has ZERO experience in the field now he is your boss and is telling you what to do....where is the fairness and sense in that?? Really maybe at other jobs this tactic is quite logical (fresh minds bring fresh ideas with them) but in Nursing experience counts the most,not some 4 year long naive theory that us nothing like a real world of nursing..Does this foolnishness happens,you betcha..I personally know a chick who right out of school became a nursing manager at a hospital just because she finished her Masters at some prestigious private school,and I dont feel a drop of jelously for her but I just think of it as quite illogical move/decision. Before eating me, no I'm not an "old" nurse with tons of experience I'm actually a newbie who is just starting her career in nursing.

Nursing NEEDS fresh minds. It is a professional stuck in a time warp. Some nurses seriously believe that we shouldn't want decent pay, we should be there solely because it's a calling blah blah. We need to move on from this. Yes nursing is a caring profession but that doesn't mean we have to be doormats. Nurses deserve better.

Also, if a certain position requires a Masters degree then regardless of whether you or me believe it's any way relevant to nursing then the person who has this degree whether they have been nursing for 2 years or 20 should be eligible. Advancement in every workplace should be based on merit NOT time served. I don't believe experience equals merit at all, nor do I believe academic achievements equals merit either. Some people have the aptitude to be good leaders and others do not.

rn/writer, RN · Nov 30, 2009

It's a shame that we can't seem to have a vent thread lately that doesn't deteriorate into a verbal slugfest. We wonder why nurses don't seem to get the respect from other professions that they deserve. That lack of regard starts right here at home, folks.

Thread closed for everyone to take a deep breath.

rn/writer, RN · Nov 30, 2009

Thread is being re-opened with the following cautions:

Keep the AN Terms of Service (available via link at the bottom of every page) in mind when posting. If you see a post that you find objectionable, use the red triangle at the bottom left corner of that post and report it rather than take it upon yourself to scold, ridicule or attack another member.

Focus on the issues at hand rather than the individuals. Say what you believe to be true instead of tearing down another member or their ideas.

Understand that a vent thread is just that--a place to express frustration and blow off steam. It's one thing to try to bring a little balance to the discussion. It's another altogether to argue with another person's feelings, even in some cases, trying to shame them for having them. We all need to be talked down from the ledges every now and again, and the best way to do this is by offering connection, a kindly-expressed different perspective, and encouragement.

Things that might be okay in another context (teasing, sarcasm, irony) don't fly well in controversial discussions. For that reason, the more heated a thread becomes, the more closely we watch it.

Please, treat each other with kindness, even when (especially when) you disagree.