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Specializes in Ortho, Neuro, Trauma, Clinic, School.

Junior High $34,342 11 miles away 900 kids or

Elementary $38,300 22 miles away 900 kids. Which sounds the best and which one would you choose?

sirI, MSN, APRN, NP

Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.

Junior High $34,342 11 miles away 900 kids or

Elementary $38,300 22 miles away 900 kids. Which sounds the best and which one would you choose?

Is it a school nurse position?

If so, I would go with the 2nd one. If benefits are same. 11 miles difference is not much unless you live in an area where that would require MUCH more time to get to work.

IMHO

Is it a school nurse position?

If so, I would go with the 2nd one. If benefits are same. 11 miles difference is not much unless you live in an area where that would require MUCH more time to get to work.

IMHO

I agree. Well if you are talking about chosing between a job. If the benefits are much better on the first I would go with it. Good luck to you. :)

BadBird, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care.

Go for the most money.

Dimple58

Specializes in Ortho, Neuro, Trauma, Clinic, School.

The job is a school nurse position with no aide. The benefits are the same.

I was told that the elementary had 3-4 procedures(cath, tube feeding, diabetic care) ages 5-10. Is 22 miles one way, and pays $38,000.

The junior high principal mentioned fractures, a seizure, giving medications for asthma and diabetics. The junior is 11 miles one way but pays only $34,000.

The job is a school nurse position with no aide. The benefits are the same.

I was told that the elementary had 3-4 procedures(cath, tube feeding, diabetic care) ages 5-10. Is 22 miles one way, and pays $38,000.

The junior high principal mentioned fractures, a seizure, giving medications for asthma and diabetics. The junior is 11 miles one way but pays only $34,000.

Then my vote goes for the second job. Good luck

RaggedyRN

Specializes in Cardiac Step Down, PICU.

I'd go for the elementary school job. You couldn't pay me enough to work with hormonal junior high schoolers. :rolleyes:

Good Luck,

Chickey

I love middle schoolers. A unique group! But I'd try to get them to come up on the salary. If you actually have an offer for both, I'd tell them the other school offered $38,000 - could they match that? With gas prices, half the distance will add up too. Eleven miles is a great distance.

mercyteapot, BSN, RN

Specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities.

I love middle schoolers. A unique group! But I'd try to get them to come up on the salary. If you actually have an offer for both, I'd tell them the other school offered $38,000 - could they match that? With gas prices, half the distance will add up too. Eleven miles is a great distance.

Right. And it won't be 11 miles extra a day, it will be 22. For me, that could add an entire hour of travel time to my day, but even in areas not plagued with traffic woes, it will mean an extra half hour or so. Add that up over the year, and $4000 extra doesn't sound like much to me (plus it will be less after the extra taxes, too). If you really have no age group preference, I'd take the junior high job myself.

Dimple58

Specializes in Ortho, Neuro, Trauma, Clinic, School.

Right. And it won't be 11 miles extra a day, it will be 22. For me, that could add an entire hour of travel time to my day, but even in areas not plagued with traffic woes, it will mean an extra half hour or so. Add that up over the year, and $4000 extra doesn't sound like much to me (plus it will be less after the extra taxes, too). If you really have no age group preference, I'd take the junior high job myself.

Hello Everyone! Thanks for all your feedback and voting advice submitted during my hour of decision. I chose (drumroll) th........e middle school! Yeahhhhhhhhhh! I decided on it because of the distance is only 11 miles without getting on the freeway and my soon to be built house will be only 5 miles away my school. I like little kids but felt more comfortable with the bigger kids and plus the bigger kids could tell me more symtoms, also the district nurse was very likeable and had interviewed me 2 yrs ago and had wanted to pick me back then but the pay was $31,000.for high school position. I couldn't get them to bulge on the salary since a nurse assistant had been at the junior high for a few years and that seemed like a plus that a NA had been able to handle that school. I will probably work one weekend a month with a home health agency to make up the difference. I left a $53G a year stressful clinic job that did minor surg and ob surg and I heard today that they'll be adding diagnostic colonoscopies and other stuff. I am the 3rd person to quit in 2 weeks. I tried to give my 2 weeks notice yesterday, but when I came into work they walked by me like they didn't get the fax, the nurse supv tried to have an impromptu mtg with me and the lead nurse and started to tell me she wanted to train me on the triage phone tomm in the next breath. So I said didn't you get my resignation fax and she acted surprised. So I will bring in the fax and confirmation. But anyway I won't be able to give full 2 weeks but 1 week because the head school nurse said the NA wanted to train me the first 2 days of school before she quit and then a sub is coming the next 3 days and then I'll be on my own mostly. So will HR leave me a bad name? Will I get my left over Vacation Time? Oh well, I'm still happy, I'll be home for my kids, and off summers!

mercyteapot, BSN, RN

Specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities.

i hope hr doesn't give you bad name. i'd consider writing another resignation, dated today, noting that you are submitting it along with a letter dated the other day, along with a fax confirmation, and ask that all of these documents be put in your file. even if the current hr people wouldn't give you a not eligible for rehire, you want to have something in the record for future hr people who didn't work with you.

So happy for you. 5 miles is great.

Just see how the HR issue plays out.

Re salary - remember you will have the summer free to make up some of the loss of income. Try at first to just have the one job and savor the decreased stress. Repair your mental health first. With shorter hours and more relaxed after work, you might be able to save a little money by not eating out as often or cooking less ready made type meals. There may be other ways you can cut back on expenses with more time.

Hello Everyone! Thanks for all your feedback and voting advice submitted during my hour of decision. I chose (drumroll) th........e middle school! Yeahhhhhhhhhh! I decided on it because of the distance is only 11 miles without getting on the freeway and my soon to be built house will be only 5 miles away my school. I like little kids but felt more comfortable with the bigger kids and plus the bigger kids could tell me more symtoms, also the district nurse was very likeable and had interviewed me 2 yrs ago and had wanted to pick me back then but the pay was $31,000.for high school position. I couldn't get them to bulge on the salary since a nurse assistant had been at the junior high for a few years and that seemed like a plus that a NA had been able to handle that school. I will probably work one weekend a month with a home health agency to make up the difference. I left a $53G a year stressful clinic job that did minor surg and ob surg and I heard today that they'll be adding diagnostic colonoscopies and other stuff. I am the 3rd person to quit in 2 weeks. I tried to give my 2 weeks notice yesterday, but when I came into work they walked by me like they didn't get the fax, the nurse supv tried to have an impromptu mtg with me and the lead nurse and started to tell me she wanted to train me on the triage phone tomm in the next breath. So I said didn't you get my resignation fax and she acted surprised. So I will bring in the fax and confirmation. But anyway I won't be able to give full 2 weeks but 1 week because the head school nurse said the NA wanted to train me the first 2 days of school before she quit and then a sub is coming the next 3 days and then I'll be on my own mostly. So will HR leave me a bad name? Will I get my left over Vacation Time? Oh well, I'm still happy, I'll be home for my kids, and off summers!

Dimple58

Specializes in Ortho, Neuro, Trauma, Clinic, School.

Well, now that I got the job, I have another dilemma. I gave my resignation 2 weeks notice, August 16,2005 and my last day for August 28, 2005. Then when the school hired me and signed my contract they told be to start August 22, 2005 to be trained by the leaving nurse. 2 days and then a sub would come the remaining 3 days. HR left it up to the clinic Director who was in a bad mood since 2 others had already quit. She said he could ok it, well he won't unless I have the school nurse fax him saying that I need to work Monday, August 22 and Tuesday, August 23 and then he wants me to come back to the hosp clinic and work August 24, 25, and 26 and then he says he still would have to think about it whether to ok less than 2 weeks notice which he says is 11 days but it's 13 days counting Sat and Sun and says regardless, it's less than 14 days. HR says it would be a shame having 10 years at the hosp and receive inelgible for rehire. They emailed each other back and forth once I told them my dilemma. He's throwing his weight around and then turns around and says he understands a person with a family situation. So if I work the 13 days he is still not promising anything. Should I stay or just go?

mercyteapot, BSN, RN

Specializes in Dev. Disabilities, Health Disparities.

Myself, I would just go. I'd document what happened, so that when you use this hospital as a reference and they say you're not eligible for rehire, you can explain to future potential employers what happened. Now that you've given notice at the other job, if you tried to rescind it, they wouldn't even be obliged to do so. Even if they let you take it back, chances are they'd be waiting for the other shoe to drop, and might find a way to make you leave anyway. IMHO, once you say you're going, it is better to go, even under unfortunate circumstances such as these.

Two weeks notice is NOT 14 days - that is almost 3 weeks notice. Two weeks notice is 10 days. Two weeks of 5 full time days.

Tell the school your present job is giving you grief about not giving the required 2 weeks notice. Ask if they can give you, what, 2 more days? They would need to pay the sub for however many of the TEN days are left, but don't go there. Ask if they can make this additional accomodation, period. The district should have provided the job offer in time for you to give the 2 weeks notice.

If they won't, then make a decision. If you worked at this hospital for so many years, are they really not going to hire back a nurse who only gave 1 1/2 weeks notice??????????

Well, now that I got the job, I have another dilemma. I gave my resignation 2 weeks notice, August 16,2005 and my last day for August 28, 2005. Then when the school hired me and signed my contract they told be to start August 22, 2005 to be trained by the leaving nurse. 2 days and then a sub would come the remaining 3 days. HR left it up to the clinic Director who was in a bad mood since 2 others had already quit. She said he could ok it, well he won't unless I have the school nurse fax him saying that I need to work Monday, August 22 and Tuesday, August 23 and then he wants me to come back to the hosp clinic and work August 24, 25, and 26 and then he says he still would have to think about it whether to ok less than 2 weeks notice which he says is 11 days but it's 13 days counting Sat and Sun and says regardless, it's less than 14 days. HR says it would be a shame having 10 years at the hosp and receive inelgible for rehire. They emailed each other back and forth once I told them my dilemma. He's throwing his wait around and then turns around and says he understands a person with a family situation. So if I work the 13 days he is still not promising anything. Should I stay or just go?

Ditto

Myself, I would just go. I'd document what happened, so that when you use this hospital as a reference and they say you're not eligible for rehire, you can explain to future potential employers what happened. Now that you've given notice at the other job, if you tried to rescind it, they wouldn't even be obliged to do so. Even if they let you take it back, chances are they'd be waiting for the other shoe to drop, and might find a way to make you leave anyway. IMHO, once you say you're going, it is better to go, even under unfortunate circumstances such as these.

Well, now that I got the job, I have another dilemma. I gave my resignation 2 weeks notice, August 16,2005 and my last day for August 28, 2005. Then when the school hired me and signed my contract they told be to start August 22, 2005 to be trained by the leaving nurse. 2 days and then a sub would come the remaining 3 days. HR left it up to the clinic Director who was in a bad mood since 2 others had already quit. She said he could ok it, well he won't unless I have the school nurse fax him saying that I need to work Monday, August 22 and Tuesday, August 23 and then he wants me to come back to the hosp clinic and work August 24, 25, and 26 and then he says he still would have to think about it whether to ok less than 2 weeks notice which he says is 11 days but it's 13 days counting Sat and Sun and says regardless, it's less than 14 days. HR says it would be a shame having 10 years at the hosp and receive inelgible for rehire. They emailed each other back and forth once I told them my dilemma. He's throwing his weight around and then turns around and says he understands a person with a family situation. So if I work the 13 days he is still not promising anything. Should I stay or just go?

Realistically, by the time you decide you want to return to the hospital, the management team might have already turned over. HR is just using a little psychological warfare on you. After 10 years of service, you made a timing error, but it clearly was not intentional. Lets put it this way, when and if you try to return to the hospital and they have advertised job openings; if they refuse to hire you and cite this situation, tell them you will have your attorney contact them for clarification as to why and would they please send you a copy of the policy that specifically states that nurses not giving 2 weeks notice are not eligible for rehire. The policy doesnt exist, trust me!. A two week notice is always desirable, but sometimes not possible for any number of reasons and cannot be enforced. Dont email anyone who is threatening you. Send a polite and to the point Certified letter and get a return receipt and save it. Address it to the highest ranking person in the hospital, IE the CEO with a copy to the chief nursing officer.Your letter should explain the unusual circumstances of your early departure and politely indicate how "disappointed" you were to be told you would be ineligible for rehire by HR after serving the facility for 10 years and put the full name of the HR person in your letter. You shouldnt have any trouble going forward if you do this

Junior High $34,342 11 miles away 900 kids or

Elementary $38,300 22 miles away 900 kids. Which sounds the best and which one would you choose?

Go for the 2nd one. Even with the price of gas it would be hard to pass up that amount of money. Good luck to you!

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